Hi Joe, <br><br>Thank you for a very inspiring response. <br><br>To wrap up my grudge from the earlier thread, firstly, I was merely <br>expressing frustration at a situation <span style="font-style: italic;">en generale</span>
, before someone<br>made it personal (Googling for Indian new media artists etc.) by when<br>the discussion had gone sufficiently off-topic. If anyone wanted to know<br>about my work, anyone can simply ask me for a dekko.
<br><br>Another problem, say - if I wanted to discuss granular synthesis using ChucK, <br>should I promptly make my way to the gran-synth list somewhere? I'm just<br>trying to say that before one tells someone to buzz off a list, one should consider
<br>broader ramifications of words like "topic" and "category", especially if one<br>considers oneself any kind of artist. "Everything touches everything", as <br>Borges used to say.<br><br><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">
It does seem sometimes as if the Web is a cornucopia of instant</span><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">gratification - so many things *are* available just for the asking,
</span><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">The fact that this one isn't should make you very happy! You have an
</span><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">opportunity to be "that guy" who's the one people think of when the
</span><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">subject of realtime music processing in Python comes up ... but only</span>
<br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">if you're willing to pursue the problem yourself, including all the</span><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">
<span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">hard bits and "aw crap I have to learn this/write this/figure this</span><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">
out from first principles".</span><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">
I'd *love* to hear what you finally come up with when you get there</span><br style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">-- but I'm afraid it's probably going to be your own road.
</span><br><br>You are so on the money, if you fidgeted you'd hear the sound of all<br>those gold coins shuffling. I'll try my best. It is now certainly a problem<br>worth pursuing. <br><br><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">
As an afterthought, have you seen the Snack package (http://</span><br style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><a href="http://www.speech.kth.se/snack/">www.speech.kth.se/snack/
</a>)? It seems to have capabilities that you</span><br style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">might be able to use with sufficient work, but Im pretty sure it's
</span><br style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 204, 204);">not an out-of-the-box fit.</span><br><br>I was going to give Snack a try some time ago, after reading some of the
<br>basic documentation. I got a little wary when I realised that the last <br>update was on <font face="Arial,Helvetica"><font size="-1">December 14, 2005. And I might have to install Python 2.3<br>over and besides 2.5 which I currently use. I somehow think that is a messy
<br>solution. I could be wrong too. <br></font></font><br><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/18/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Joe McMahon</b> <<a href="mailto:mcmahon@ibiblio.org">mcmahon@ibiblio.org</a>
> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I can understand that you're having some frustration with your<br>project. The folks here have pointed you to stuff they thought would
<br>help. It didn't. This happens.<br><br>Most of the time, if you're asking a question which has some real<br>meat to it (and yours does), the answers you get from just asking<br>people at relatively speaking random don't help much other than to
<br>point you toward some possibilities and to confirm that you have a<br>lot of work to do.<br><br>If you can pull off realtime FFTs in Python and get something<br>musically interesting out of it, you've done something that would
<br>probably qualify as graduate-level computer music work. I have to say<br>I'm not surprised that someone else couldn't just hand you a solution!<br><br>It does seem sometimes as if the Web is a cornucopia of instant
<br>gratification - so many things *are* available just for the asking,<br>The fact that this one isn't should make you very happy! You have an<br>opportunity to be "that guy" who's the one people think of when the
<br>subject of realtime music processing in Python comes up ... but only<br>if you're willing to pursue the problem yourself, including all the<br>hard bits and "aw crap I have to learn this/write this/figure this
<br>out from first principles".<br><br>I'd *love* to hear what you finally come up with when you get there<br>-- but I'm afraid it's probably going to be your own road.<br><br>As an afterthought, have you seen the Snack package (http://
<br><a href="http://www.speech.kth.se/snack/">www.speech.kth.se/snack/</a>)? It seems to have capabilities that you<br>might be able to use with sufficient work, but Im pretty sure it's<br>not an out-of-the-box fit.<br>
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