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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK, I'm not a math wiz or even a audio/dsp wiz, and
certainly not a ChucK wiz. What exactly does this mean:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>now - (now % T) => now;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've seen it before and am guessing it has
something to do with periodicity, but not really sure how this statement works.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-- Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=signal.automatique@gmail.com
href="mailto:signal.automatique@gmail.com">Kassen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu
href="mailto:chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu">ChucK Users Mailing List</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [chuck-users] cast dur to
time?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>On 08/01/2008, <B class=gmail_sendername>mike clemow</B> <<A
href="mailto:gelfmuse@gmail.com">gelfmuse@gmail.com</A>> wrote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Okay... affine
spaces. I'm going to have to wikipedia that one, i'm<BR>afraid
(high school math ain't doin' it for me here ;-) I
understand<BR>the analogy of vectors and point, though--I think that lends
some <BR>credence to the idea that Chuck is already on the right path as
far<BR>how the dur and time types work.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>I see the analogy and I think it has a lot of merit.<BR>I'm also, at
the same time, sticking to my older point that ChucK is already muddying the
waters and is in fact getting quite a bit of use from that, for example "now -
(now % T) => now;", I find that line very beautiful, extremely useful and
in direct opposition to looking at time objects are pure references to
instances. <BR> </DIV><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">I
still have a few questions. The first is for
Kassen: Why do you<BR>want to know the VM start time?
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<DIV><BR>To quote Nick Cave; "I can't see for the smoke so I poke around, I
poke around"(etc)<BR><BR>At some moment I just tried it as the units are the
same, it didn't work so I tried some more related stuff. <BR><BR>I want to
learn so I'm asking questions. ChucK is a great tool to put some bangin' beats
on the proverbial floor and it's a nice experiment in syntax. I like both
aspects a lot. At the core of ChucK's syntax is time and timing so any
questions and -possible- incoherency's in working with those are quite
interesting. <BR><BR>I can find the birth of the VM and half a minuted after I
found out how to I shared this with the list so now we all can, but I think
some questions remain. I don't know about you but so far I have used "time" as
a data type only rarely and I didn't know that much about it, I think we all
know a bit more now. In a way there is a certain philosophical beauty to only
being able to define time in relation to the "now" but as this can lead to
some decidedly odd expressions I wonder if that's intentional and proper.
<BR> <BR>As for actual use, I could imagine that referring to absolute
moments in time could become useful when writing a score, especially with some
sort of sorting, Csound style. Maybe there are other better uses, maybe it's
all quite academic? I'm already enthusiastic there are people that have a
position on this too. <BR><BR></DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><BR><BR>I'm
just thinking out loud...</BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>So was and am I. It's the ultimate in open-source!
<BR> "thinking out loud" strikes me as a excelent slogan for a musical
programing language.<BR></DIV><BR><BR>Yours,<BR>Kas.<BR></DIV>
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