<div dir="ltr">Hello all,<div><br></div><div>I can't say much about the development part itself, but in my experience I've noticed that ChucK is still being used widely at an academic level. I understand it's being used in a few universities that include creative technology programs and computer orchestra courses in their curriculums, including CalArts, Stanford, and VUW (New Zealand). Like Mario mentioned, it is a core part of a few Kadenze courses; I've been involved as a producer/teaching assistant in a couple of them and it seems like it's a popular language among students who are just learning how to code, and musicians who would like to develop more advanced projects. Also, ChucK Racks popped up a couple of months ago, which was pretty exciting. So yeah, I think there's quite a bit going on, but it certainly would be nice to have a more active community (I'm hoping to contribute, and hopefully I'll get to it before too long).<br></div><div><br></div><div>About the <b>static strings</b> issue, I think they're kind of in a shady spot. Like Gonzalo mentioned, you can't have static non-primitives in your code, but there is a workaround to this by declaring objects as a reference and then initializing them outside of the class. However, if you try to do this with strings, it will tell you that they're a primitive type and it throws an error. The best hack I've found for this is through arrays (even if the size of the array is 1 in many cases). Here's an example:</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#666666"><br></font></div><div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:19 AM, mario buoninfante <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mario.buoninfante@gmail.com" target="_blank">mario.buoninfante@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I'd like to ask the same question about the development status.<br>
<br>
the only thing I can say is that also if the development seems to be a bit stuck, on the other side I noticed that they're pushing on the educational side (see Kadenze courses), and if you look at the github repository, there's been some update in the last 2 years.<br>
<br>
but as you guys said, it's important to know what's the plan ;)<br>
<br>
it's a couple of years I'm really diving into ChucK and I strongly believe that is a good programming language which opens up a lot of possibilities that other languages don't.<br>
<br>
but at the same time I feel like it's been a bit abandoned (maybe that's a huge word, let's say put aside ;) ) and of course using a "tool" which has an "uncertain future" it's not the best thing.<br>
<br>
I wish I was able to offer my contribution to the development, but unfortunately I'm not really into C/C++, I'm more a "scripting language guy" :)<br>
<br>
btw, it would be nice to hear what developers and/or other users have to say about it.<br>
<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
<br>
Mario<span class="gmail-im gmail-HOEnZb"><br>
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<br>
<br>
On 12/01/18 22:14, Gonzalo wrote:<br>
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Yes, I'm wondering the same thing. There's a Facebook group (<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/1593843507578422/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/grou<wbr>ps/1593843507578422/</a>) but it doesn't look super active either.<br>
<br>
As far as static strings: I'm pretty sure you just can't have static non-primitives. What are you trying to achieve?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Gonzalo<br>
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On 13.01.18 00:20, Atte wrote:<br>
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Hi<br>
<br>
I've been away for a long time and surprised that activity seems to have slowed down a lot, both on the development of new releases chuck and the life of this list. Am I looking at the wrong places? What's the status of chuck development now and in the future?<br>
<br>
I really like chuck (mostly the timing and sporking including Machine.add()), should I look other places for a language that will privide a more secure future? I'm on linux and looked at Csound, Super Collider and PD, each has it's challenges in how I work (realtime generative and algorithmic MIDI), python seems to have realtime problems (garbage collection at random points). Any idea what former chuck users have switched to now?<br>
<br>
Back to chuck! A problem that I never been able to solve, static strings:<br>
<br>
public class A {<br>
"b" @=> static string B;<br>
<br>
public static void C(){<br>
<<<B>>>;<br>
}<br>
}<br>
<br>
That throws an error, how would I go about what I'm trying to do?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
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