Interesting!

What attracted me to ChucK was the fact that it is NOT graphically oriented.  Sure, OSC is fun in how you can attach unit generators by interconnecting them graphically, but I find ChucK's text-based programming model is ultimately much more expressive.  

I like to think of ChucK as the computer musician's equivalent of grinding your own pigments: it's more work, but you produce something that is more identifiably your own.

- Rob

2010/9/1 Rich Caloggero <rjc@mit.edu>
What I wish I could do with Chuck, or any language really, is to have a system like I imagine PureData to be. From what I've heard, gui DSP languages can allow you to create software synthesizers, samplers, and other similar software, complete with gui control.  You can do the DSP in chuck, but being able to create a standalone thing that can be easily tweaked or whatever via gui would require lots of reinventing of the wheel.
 
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think sighted people have a whole host of sound making technology at their fingertips. If they want to program everything from the ground up, they can use chuck and OSC and write a gui to control what they build in Chuck. Seems like there are other people, like me, who do not want to program all the dsp stuff; I'd just like to have software in which I can  load up my synth or effect or sampler and build weird sounds via gui in real time.  Sighted people can do this with lots of programs; just look at all the synthesizers that now come with protools, or Cakewalk's Sonar.  Some of these have been made somewhat accessible via screen reader specific scripts, but I've not seen anything even remotely accessible off the shelf.
 
Sorry for rambling, but it seems all the pieces are there. Just need someone a lot smarter than me to put them together...
-- Rich
 
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For ChucK , I've always used emacs as my editor and a terminal window for performance.  I'm curious: why do people use MiniAudicle?  And for our blind community, what do you wish it would do that a straight text editor and terminal window doesn't do?

- Rob

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 09:39, Rich Caloggero <rjc@mit.edu> wrote:
I am a blind user who has played around with chuck! Chuck is perfectly accessible via command shell in either linux or windows. The language is great and running programs is simple.

The GUI environment, mini audical, is another matter. I was not able to use it on Windows; have not tried on Mac or Linux.

I wonder if a rewrite in java using Swing UI classes would be feassible. This would probably give the most access, cross platform and with little extra coding. You do need to use Swing though, otherwise the code to talk with MSAA (microsoft Active Accessibility) will need to be written by hand, which is probably a big pain!

Write me off list at rjc@mit.edu
-- Rich

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 Would like to know if there are any other blind users of chuck besides myself and perhaps talk to them offlist so as to not spam the list needlessly.

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