2010/11/3 Ge Wang <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ge@ccrma.stanford.edu">ge@ccrma.stanford.edu</a>&gt;</span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi Kassen!<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hey Ge!</div><div><br></div><div>I suppose it&#39;s clear that that message was send in a bit of a emotional mood. Indeed these are important topics and a bit more attention to them here&amp;there would be good so it might be good to push them a little... But I should also point out that I went back to a older version (I have backups, fortunately) and enjoyed a good live session after all jamming with my friend Rob who wrote his own system in Pure Data.</div>
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I feel your pain!  We&#39;ll definitely get on it.  There are actually macro&#39;s throughout to combat floating point denormalization (for example, measures are taken in the general UGen architecture and also strategically added to all of STK in ChucK where there is feedback that could lead to denormalization), but perhaps they have not yet made their way into LiSa. Do you have a minimal example of the feedback loop that leads to floating-point denormalization?<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I appreciate that this is a complex issue, I&#39;ll try to get you a example. Part of my problem is that even I can&#39;t find exactly where and what is going wrong here now; it&#39;s quite involved. With ChucK we can have a very fast iteration rate, but if the bug takes a few minutes to surface that rate can go down quite dramatically, with quite a few false-positives....</div>
<div><br></div><div>I suppose I got this issue having a fast iteration rate, which made sure bugs that take a while to surface will only come up after changing quite a few things. There might be a lesson there.</div><div>
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ASIO is long due and I am sorry it&#39;s not part of the canonical ChucK release yet.  Spencer has actually been be gearing up for massive ChucK/miniAudicle development here at CCRMA.  We will priority boost ASIO support!<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks! Between the atrociously long latency of WMA (I have no idea what Redmond was thinking there), the existence of ASIO4ALL, the issues with multi-channel WMA, and the updates to RTAudio  since ChucK was conceived I think this is a winning situation all round.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m also looking forward to the update to the Mini, Spencer&#39;s work is always top notch.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Kas.</div></div>