I agree that now is a great time to make some improvements to the language! Right now I am pretty busy trying to get Chunity to compile on the last few major platforms (hopefully more on that soon), but I'd be happy to help point people in the right direction if they want to try making a pull request. It's a pretty massive codebase and so sometimes a little help explaining where to get started is all that's necessary to help someone make some changes! ~Jack On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:07 AM Ge Wang wrote:

Dear Michael, Mario, and all,

Thanks for tuning in! For those who missed it, the recording of Artful Design TV Episode #7: "Coding Music with ChucK" with guest co-hosts Perry Cook and Spencer Salazar is now posted in the Archive. It was a fun one!

https://artful.design/tv/archive/

I agree with Michael and Mario -- this seems like an appropriate moment for us and the community to take stock and redouble ChucK development efforts. Michael's list is a great jumping-off point. Spencer and I have started merging and closing outstanding pull-requests on github and would encourage others to contribute new PRs. On a personal note, even after 18 years I still find coding on ChucK a strangely restorative activity, perhaps extra so in quarantine.

Regarding ChucK as a library: indeed since 1.4.0.0, ChucK has been fully refactored into "core" and "host", where "core" is the ChucK VM and synthesis engine, encapsulated in a single "ChucK" class. This refactor was mainly the efforts of Jack Atherton, who also used it to create Chunity (ChucK in Unity; http://chuck.stanford.edu/chunity). The broader implication is that it's now straightforward to embed ChucK as library or component into other systems and plugins.

To demonstrate how this works in practice, Jack has created an example of embedding ChucK into any host. The zip file can be found here:

http://chuck.stanford.edu/release/files/examples/chuck-embed.zip

So far this example builds only for MacOS and Linux, but should be easily adaptable to build for Windows. In particular, we draw your attention to the simple host c++ file that 1) sets up a ChucK instance, 2) compiles ChucK code using two approaches, and 3) handles the real-time audio callback from ChucK.

http://chuck.stanford.edu/release/files/examples/chuck-embed/host/chuck-embe...

Well, that's it for now. Thank you all and keep on ChucKin!

Ge!

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On 5/11/20 12:30 PM, Mario Buoninfante wrote:

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Hi,

I second what Michael said, the streaming was really cool and interesting!

About the new features and "libchuck", I am more than happy to help out as much as I can. I am not a C/C++ programmer, but I'm currently studying it. Recently I have done few little things in ChucK (mainly Chugins and easy bug fixes documented on github) and am getting more and more familiar with ChucK's source code, that is always useful. I suppose I could be of some help in some way. What I can do for sure though, is support with testing, mainly on Linux but also MacOS and Windows.

Also, about the github repo, it seems like there are still old issues open even if they have been fixed. In case it can be useful I'd be happy to double check them so that we can then maybe close the cases.

Cheers, Mario

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On 11 May 2020 17:04, Michael Heuer wrote:

Hello Ge, Spencer, Perry

It was very nice to meet you virtually in the recent Artful Design TV meetup!

With that event and the recent ChucK version 1.4.0.1 http://1.4.0.1 release I have been inspired to ask a bunch of questions. Hope you don't mind.

Is there much interest in implementing new ChucK language features? There are some suggestions in GitHub issues

Add abstract and final class and method modifiers https://github.com/ccrma/chuck/issues/105 Allow a class to implement more than one interface or extend more than one class https://github.com/ccrma/chuck/issues/106 Order of class definitions in a file matters sometimes https://github.com/ccrma/chuck/issues/107 Add constructors to class definitions https://github.com/ccrma/chuck/issues/108 Add namespaces and import statements https://github.com/ccrma/chuck/issues/109 Allow => from a UGen into a field/parameter https://github.com/ccrma/chuck/issues/110

Then outside of the new language features, my most desired feature request would be

Chubgraphs and ChuGens don't support stereo operation https://github.com/ccrma/chuck/issues/111

Next, it sounds like the new ChucK version will be easier to use as a library. Is there interest from the community in helping wrap this library into plugins? Despite occasional attempts with libchuck https://github.com/mgyucht/libchuck (which I assume may be deprecated now?), I am not much of a C/C++ developer and often find myself lost in build issues.

LV2 plugin http://lv2plug.in/ for Linux, this would allow running ChucK on the MOD Devices pedals https://wiki.moddevices.com/wiki/Creating_Audio_Plugins

AudioUnit v3 for OSX and iOS, https://forum.juce.com/t/ios-audiounit-wait-what/17224

VCV Rack https://vcvrack.com/ plugin, custom API https://vcvrack.com/manual/PluginDevelopmentTutorial

Then on a somewhat related note, what the hell? These are header files!

This repository is currently disabled due to a DMCA takedown notice. https://github.com/spencersalazar/libchuck

https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2018/2018-06-13-Steinberg.md

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This breaks the https://github.com/mtiid/chuck-racks build.

Cheers,

michael

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