this was just wrong, though perhaps some will get amusement out of it. the first message subject i heard about the new chuck msp max object or what ever that is, i heard the words new chuck and got all excited, thinking that the new version of chuck had been released. i was planning a pizza celebration for me and a few close friends just on hearing those first two words. then the subject continued and i heard about the object for that other program and realized it wasn't new chuck at all. so much for the pizza party, having that now would get me all depressed because it didn't have any reason to happen any longer.