Not to get off topic too far, but this reminds me of a funny situation back in college. Someone had managed to create an undeletable file, and even the superusers could not delete it. I think it had a single space character as the filename and the Unix of the day didn't let you surround a filename with quotes (this was close to 20 years ago). So the file lived on eternally, lol. Another funny story from college: One day the sysop asked me for my password. I replied sharply with what sounded to him like "bite me", an obvious rude remark. He said "No, really, I need it to fix some stuff." I replied by spelling out the password: "That's the password: byteme". Everyone had a great laugh. We now return you to your regularly scheduled ChucK mailing list. Les