PS - I’ve seen a version of this issue with Chunity and Unity when building games for MacOS and running them on Mojave or Catalina. There is an easy workaround that involves commenting out the mic setup stuff in the ChuckMainInstance (thanks Jack!), but I’m wondering if there may be other sticky issues…? —ss [ - ] Scott Smallwood http://www.scott-smallwood.com/ - Associate Professor - University of Alberta [ - ]

On Nov 26, 2019, at 2:09 PM, David Loberg Code wrote:

This looks promising for trying to manually convince the system that miniAudicle needs microphone access:

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/avfoundation/cameras_and_media_cap... https://developer.apple.com/documentation/avfoundation/cameras_and_media_cap...

----------------- David Loberg Code School of Music Western Michigan code@wmich.edu mailto:code@wmich.edu

Fra: David Loberg Code Sendt: mandag 25. november 2019 11:30 Til: chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu Emne: Mojave/Catalina mic access issues

In OSX 10.14 and 10.15 the System Preference => Privacy settings now have a feature to control third-party access to the mic and camera. The problem my students are encountering is that miniAudicle doesn't show up as an identified app on the list, so they can't click the box to allow access, and thus they can't use adc in ChucK.

Is there either: a) a ChucK workaround? OR b) a system file or something to which miniAudicle can be manually added as a recognized app that uses the microphone?

Thanks,

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Hey David, Thanks for noting this for us- Im guessing theres some kind of whitelist if you used miniAudicle with audio input before upgrading to Mojave, as neither Ge nor I seem to be having this issue. Do you see "miniAudicle" listed under System Preferences > Security and Privacy > Privacy > Microphone? If so, checking this box next its listing may work as a temporary fix while we pursue a permanent solution. Spencer -- Spencer Salazar, PhD spencer@spencersalazar.com | 831.277.4654 https://spencersalazar.com On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:01 PM David Loberg Code wrote:

Scott, For the unskilled, do you have step-by-step instructions for the "easy workaround"?

In my own attempts, I have been (unsuccessfully) trying to alter the Info.plist to force it to prompt for Mic access.

Thanks,

davd

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School of Music

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------------------------------ *Fra:* Scott Smallwood *Sendt:* tirsdag 26. november 2019 21:14 *Til:* ChucK Users Mailing List *Emne:* Re: [chuck-users] Mojave/Catalina mic access issues

PS - I’ve seen a version of this issue with Chunity and Unity when building games for MacOS and running them on Mojave or Catalina. There is an easy workaround that involves commenting out the mic setup stuff in the ChuckMainInstance (thanks Jack!), but I’m wondering if there may be other sticky issues…?

—ss

[ - ] Scott Smallwood http://www.scott-smallwood.com - Associate Professor - University of Alberta [ - ]

On Nov 26, 2019, at 2:09 PM, David Loberg Code wrote:

This looks promising for trying to manually convince the system that miniAudicle needs microphone access:

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/avfoundation/cameras_and_media_cap...

----------------- David Loberg Code School of Music Western Michigan code@wmich.edu

------------------------------ *Fra:* David Loberg Code *Sendt:* mandag 25. november 2019 11:30 *Til:* chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu < chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu> *Emne:* Mojave/Catalina mic access issues

In OSX 10.14 and 10.15 the System Preference => Privacy settings now have a feature to control third-party access to the mic and camera. The problem my students are encountering is that miniAudicle doesn't show up as an identified app on the list, so they can't click the box to allow access, and thus they can't use adc in ChucK.

Is there either: a) a ChucK workaround? OR b) a system file or something to which miniAudicle can be manually added as a recognized app that uses the microphone?

Thanks,

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Found a work-around for the mic access problem (thanks to the Audacity community)

From Terminal: open /Applications/miniAudicle.app/Contents/MacOS/miniAudicle This opens miniAud and triggers a request for Mic access for Terminal which allows it to function within miniAudicle.

As far as I know, this workaround is not permanent. It needs to be repeated the next time you want to open miniAudicle (and use the mic). ----------------- David Loberg Code School of Music Western Michigan code@wmich.edu ________________________________ Fra: David Loberg Code Sendt: onsdag 27. november 2019 16:39 Til: ChucK Users Mailing List Emne: Re: [chuck-users] Mojave/Catalina mic access issues Spencer, Yes. It seems to be affecting people with OSX 10.14 or 10.15 with new installs of ChucK. (I have seen three separate cases now.) Your suggested temporary fix won't work, because, as I pointed out in my first post, the problem is that miniAud is not listed as an option in Privacy -> Microphone. Scott, Thanks for your reply too, but the issue is that we DO want to use the mic. So commenting it out won't help. miniAudicle runs fine for these people otherwise (i.e., there are no crashes, and the UGens work, etc.) davd p.s. I also have never resolved my last miniAud vs. hardware issue in which it will not receive any trackpad data from a set of 2012 MacBooks. It has been a frustrating semester since the trackpad doesn't work on the old laptops and the mic doesn't work on the new ones. ----------------- David Loberg Code School of Music Western Michigan code@wmich.edu ________________________________ Fra: Spencer Salazar Sendt: onsdag 27. november 2019 12:18 Til: ChucK Users Mailing List Emne: Re: [chuck-users] Mojave/Catalina mic access issues Hey David, Thanks for noting this for us- Im guessing theres some kind of whitelist if you used miniAudicle with audio input before upgrading to Mojave, as neither Ge nor I seem to be having this issue. Do you see "miniAudicle" listed under System Preferences > Security and Privacy > Privacy > Microphone? If so, checking this box next its listing may work as a temporary fix while we pursue a permanent solution. Spencer -- Spencer Salazar, PhD spencer@spencersalazar.commailto:spencer@spencersalazar.com | 831.277.4654 https://spencersalazar.comhttps://spencersalazar.com/ On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:01 PM David Loberg Code mailto:d.loberg.code@wmich.edu> wrote: Scott, For the unskilled, do you have step-by-step instructions for the "easy workaround"? In my own attempts, I have been (unsuccessfully) trying to alter the Info.plist to force it to prompt for Mic access. Thanks, davd ----------------- David Loberg Code School of Music Western Michigan code@wmich.edumailto:code@wmich.edu ________________________________ Fra: Scott Smallwood mailto:ssmallwo@ualberta.ca> Sendt: tirsdag 26. november 2019 21:14 Til: ChucK Users Mailing List mailto:chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu> Emne: Re: [chuck-users] Mojave/Catalina mic access issues PS - I’ve seen a version of this issue with Chunity and Unity when building games for MacOS and running them on Mojave or Catalina. There is an easy workaround that involves commenting out the mic setup stuff in the ChuckMainInstance (thanks Jack!), but I’m wondering if there may be other sticky issues…? —ss [ - ] Scott Smallwoodhttp://www.scott-smallwood.com - Associate Professor - University of Alberta [ - ] On Nov 26, 2019, at 2:09 PM, David Loberg Code mailto:d.loberg.code@wmich.edu> wrote: This looks promising for trying to manually convince the system that miniAudicle needs microphone access: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/avfoundation/cameras_and_media_cap... ----------------- David Loberg Code School of Music Western Michigan code@wmich.edumailto:code@wmich.edu ________________________________ Fra: David Loberg Code mailto:d.loberg.code@wmich.edu> Sendt: mandag 25. november 2019 11:30 Til: chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edumailto:chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu mailto:chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu> Emne: Mojave/Catalina mic access issues In OSX 10.14 and 10.15 the System Preference => Privacy settings now have a feature to control third-party access to the mic and camera. The problem my students are encountering is that miniAudicle doesn't show up as an identified app on the list, so they can't click the box to allow access, and thus they can't use adc in ChucK. Is there either: a) a ChucK workaround? OR b) a system file or something to which miniAudicle can be manually added as a recognized app that uses the microphone? Thanks, ----------------- David Loberg Code School of Music Western Michigan code@wmich.edumailto:code@wmich.edu _______________________________________________ chuck-users mailing list chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edumailto:chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users _______________________________________________ chuck-users mailing list chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edumailto:chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users