Let's pick up the tweet-length gauntlet!
Look at what our esteemed colleagues / mortal enemies did; http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/sc140/ Way cool stuff. Should we try our own version? I'm sure we could get the webspace at EM and I'd know a good flash designer who could make us a player. Who's game? Maybe Les feels called to curate this? Les has his radio show with a chat-room that could be used to determine what pieces appeal to a audience and which ones are less popular? Yours, Kas.
hey
2009/10/27 Kassen
wow- nice!
Who's game?
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Maybe Les feels called to curate this? a chat-room that could be used to determine what pieces appeal to a audience and which ones are less popular?
is this a popularity contest? this is a great idea, and since i'm not actually doing anything to make it happen [other than this note], i don't get much say. but what's wrong with just opening the door for people to contribute [regardless of a curator's opinion]? if someone wants to pull a sub grouping of submissions that appeal to one group or another- who cares? but i'd like to suggest that the door is open to all contributors, say within a certain time frame. i have worked on the microsound list with the projects there, and the 'open door' policy has been pretty successful. [better karma too ...] i'm just sayin ... -- \js [ - . . . ]
I'm game! I haven't been that active in the tune-making ChucK, but I've been
meaning to have a go...
That's a cool project! :)
/Stefan
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:14 PM, john saylor
hey
2009/10/27 Kassen
: wow- nice!
Who's game?
1
Maybe Les feels called to curate this? a chat-room that could be used to determine what pieces appeal to a audience and which ones are less popular?
is this a popularity contest?
this is a great idea, and since i'm not actually doing anything to make it happen [other than this note], i don't get much say. but what's wrong with just opening the door for people to contribute [regardless of a curator's opinion]? if someone wants to pull a sub grouping of submissions that appeal to one group or another- who cares? but i'd like to suggest that the door is open to all contributors, say within a certain time frame.
i have worked on the microsound list with the projects there, and the 'open door' policy has been pretty successful. [better karma too ...]
i'm just sayin ...
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John;
is this a popularity contest?
No, not at all. I was just getting the impression that online compilation was a sub-set of all such tweets. I suppose I was mainly talking about myself; I always find it hard to judge my own work so I tend to trust on what others think is nice.
this is a great idea, and since i'm not actually doing anything to make it happen [other than this note], i don't get much say. but what's wrong with just opening the door for people to contribute [regardless of a curator's opinion]? if someone wants to pull a sub grouping of submissions that appeal to one group or another- who cares? but i'd like to suggest that the door is open to all contributors, say within a certain time frame.
You are right. This is my fault for not writing clear enough. I anticipated that some people would send in -say- 10 variations on a theme. This happened with the 80 character game (with great results!). If we are presenting this to the outside world with a flash player like in the link I'd say it would make sense to pick the 1 or 2 best ones out of a set like that. That process would be a bit like a popularity contest and in that case I see no harm in this. I'm absolutely not advocating excluding anyone, I'd just prefer -say- 25 tracks by 20 artists over 60 tracks by 20 artists with some people over-represented. IMHO everyone who send in a piece should have a spot. I also think that if you make 50 pieces in a especially inspired night you should definitely share all of those but I'm not so sure it'd be a good idea to feature all 50 in a compilation of various artists.
i have worked on the microsound list with the projects there, and the 'open door' policy has been pretty successful. [better karma too ...]
Absolutely. Sorry about representing my thoughts so unclearly; I hope we are on the same page now? Yours, Kas.
This is a great idea!
What are the ground rules?
-Mike
2009/10/27 Kassen
John;
is this a popularity contest?
No, not at all.
I was just getting the impression that online compilation was a sub-set of all such tweets.
I suppose I was mainly talking about myself; I always find it hard to judge my own work so I tend to trust on what others think is nice.
this is a great idea, and since i'm not actually doing anything to make it happen [other than this note], i don't get much say. but what's wrong with just opening the door for people to contribute [regardless of a curator's opinion]? if someone wants to pull a sub grouping of submissions that appeal to one group or another- who cares? but i'd like to suggest that the door is open to all contributors, say within a certain time frame.
You are right. This is my fault for not writing clear enough.
I anticipated that some people would send in -say- 10 variations on a theme. This happened with the 80 character game (with great results!). If we are presenting this to the outside world with a flash player like in the link I'd say it would make sense to pick the 1 or 2 best ones out of a set like that. That process would be a bit like a popularity contest and in that case I see no harm in this.
I'm absolutely not advocating excluding anyone, I'd just prefer -say- 25 tracks by 20 artists over 60 tracks by 20 artists with some people over-represented. IMHO everyone who send in a piece should have a spot. I also think that if you make 50 pieces in a especially inspired night you should definitely share all of those but I'm not so sure it'd be a good idea to feature all 50 in a compilation of various artists.
i have worked on the microsound list with the projects there, and the 'open door' policy has been pretty successful. [better karma too ...]
Absolutely. Sorry about representing my thoughts so unclearly; I hope we are on the same page now?
Yours, Kas.
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Mike;
What are the ground rules?
140 characters max. (the maximum for a twitter post). I asked on the Livecode list whether the sc people used more rules and will report when I get a answer. I'd say loading external samples would be out of the question, on the logic that those can't be "tweeted" either. I'd say it also has to compile and run in the latest default ChucK download without extra flags, which sadly excludes CNoise but also prevents sneaky trickery like recompiling ChucK with a Amen break in the "special" samples :-). Errors/warnings and eventual crashes seem perfectly fine to me. I don't feel there should be any need to actually send it out over Twitter if you don't have a account there and/or don't like that. Having some sort of clear submission process would probably be a good idea, to avoid entries being overlooked. These are just my proposals. Yours, Kas.
hey
these seeem good
2009/10/27 Kassen
140 characters max.
I'd say it also has to compile and run in the latest default ChucK download without extra flags, which sadly excludes CNoise but also prevents sneaky trickery like recompiling ChucK with a Amen break in the "special" samples :-).
good- in the interest of avoiding problems, it might be good to put an explicit version number, or a number that the version has to be greater than.
Errors/warnings and eventual crashes seem perfectly fine to me.
the only thing i'd suggest is that the entry is posted to this mailing list sometime before a certain date [or maybe 'tweeted' to a certain account] ... and i don't know about web space or whatever. if you wanted to make this a join chuck/microsound project [and everyone was on board] we might be able to host it on the microsound site [which is all set up already]. i'm not saying this is a particularly good or bad idea, but just offering it as a possibility. there will be some work involved with gathering up the entries, and putting them on the web, but that's later. again, i think this is a great idea- nice work!! -- \js [ - . . . ]
John;
good- in the interest of avoiding problems, it might be good to put an explicit version number, or a number that the version has to be greater than.
1.2.1.3 is the current one. Seems a easy choice for me?
Errors/warnings and eventual crashes seem perfectly fine to me.
the only thing i'd suggest is that the entry is posted to this mailing list sometime before a certain date [or maybe 'tweeted' to a certain account] ...
I'm not sure to what degree Twitter tags like "#chuckage" or "@John" would go at the expense of characters or how sc dealt with that.
and i don't know about web space or whatever. if you wanted to make this a join chuck/microsound project [and everyone was on board] we might be able to host it on the microsound site [which is all set up already]. i'm not saying this is a particularly good or bad idea, but just offering it as a possibility.
We have web-space at the forum at the EM site. EM has servers for files that are on a very big connection in Norway. Princeton and Stanford also have webspace that we might be able to use. I don't think any of those would even blink at the kind of space and bandwith this is likely to take.
there will be some work involved with gathering up the entries, and putting them on the web, but that's later.
Indeed. There may be questions there, like to what degree a flash-based player is suitable to present the output of a FOSS project and what alternatives there are. As this would be great advertising for ChucK I think we should consider both a convenient pre-rendered format as well as easy access to the sources. again, i think this is a great idea- nice work!!
I hardly did a thing, really. It's good to see so much enthousiasm already.
Kas.
This sounds totally fun! In case this hasn't come up yet, here are the one-line ChucK crazies that kijjaz initiated in 2006, for potential content and inspiration! http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-13512.html Best, Ge! On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Kassen wrote:
Look at what our esteemed colleagues / mortal enemies did; http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/sc140/
Way cool stuff. Should we try our own version? I'm sure we could get the webspace at EM and I'd know a good flash designer who could make us a player.
Who's game? Maybe Les feels called to curate this? Les has his radio show with a chat-room that could be used to determine what pieces appeal to a audience and which ones are less popular?
Yours, Kas.
So we have some basic content for our twitplayer :).
What's the deadline anyway? (I don't promise anything, my classnames are
usually more than 140 chars long and still no sound :D).
BesT,
Szilveszter (Hillaby)
2009/10/28 Ge Wang
This sounds totally fun! In case this hasn't come up yet, here are the one-line ChucK crazies that kijjaz initiated in 2006, for potential content and inspiration!
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-13512.html
Best, Ge!
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Kassen wrote:
Look at what our esteemed colleagues / mortal enemies did; http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/sc140/
Way cool stuff. Should we try our own version? I'm sure we could get the webspace at EM and I'd know a good flash designer who could make us a player.
Who's game? Maybe Les feels called to curate this? Les has his radio show with a chat-room that could be used to determine what pieces appeal to a audience and which ones are less popular?
Yours, Kas.
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Hmm... interesting... "crazy robot dance!" one-liner has a for(;;) in it.
Seems that it used to work in earlier chuck versions :).
Szilveszter (Hillaby)
2009. október 28. 9:51 Szilveszter Tóth írta,
So we have some basic content for our twitplayer :).
What's the deadline anyway? (I don't promise anything, my classnames are usually more than 140 chars long and still no sound :D).
BesT, Szilveszter (Hillaby)
2009/10/28 Ge Wang
This sounds totally fun! In case this hasn't come up yet, here are the
one-line ChucK crazies that kijjaz initiated in 2006, for potential content and inspiration!
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-13512.html
Best, Ge!
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Kassen wrote:
Look at what our esteemed colleagues / mortal enemies did; http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/sc140/
Way cool stuff. Should we try our own version? I'm sure we could get the webspace at EM and I'd know a good flash designer who could make us a player.
Who's game? Maybe Les feels called to curate this? Les has his radio show with a chat-room that could be used to determine what pieces appeal to a audience and which ones are less popular?
Yours, Kas.
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Even, I made the same jokes 3 years after this :-) How the things flows, come and go and go and go and go...
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Ge Wang
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john saylor
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Kassen
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Lucas Samaruga
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mike clemow
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Stefan Blixt
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Szilveszter Tóth