Initial download risk or just joking?
Can someone please advise if someone is being facetious or is there really a risk in the download? When you click the Download link the first paragraph reads: "ChucK-1.2.x.x is part of the Dracula release of ChucK - why Dracula? While the previous release (Frankenstein/1.1.x.x) offered the proof of concepts (timing, concurrency, on-the-fly programming) with a generous propensity to explode, the Dracula release is more refined and powerful with the addition of arrays, objects, events (and better explosions too). Additionally, the Dracula release is yet unoptimized and may suck all blood and life from your computer (anticipate spectacular crashes and other bloody disasters)... Please let us know if that happens. " - Show quoted text -
Edward,
I guess there's two things at play here. For starters, Ge Wang has a
tendency to over-play the "disastrous crashes" of which Chuck is
capable. He *is* being facetious. Chuck has not damaged anyone's
computer, or ruined anyone's data to my knowledge. There is, however,
as with all software released under the GNU Public License, no
"guarantee" and downloading and running the software is technically
"at your own risk," although I for one have never had any problems
with Chuck or any GNU Public Licensed software that I would label
"disastrous."
The worst Chuck has done for me is crashing it's own process and
forcing me to restart it. It often does this when it should actually
spit out some error message. It is also a tad more memory and CPU
hungry than its developers would like it to be when it is "mature." I
think that's what the real message is here.
Be not afraid. Chuck is good news.
Mike
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Edward Herbst
Can someone please advise if someone is being facetious or is there really a risk in the download? When you click the Download link the first paragraph reads:
"ChucK-1.2.x.x is part of the Dracula release of ChucK - why Dracula? While the previous release (Frankenstein/1.1.x.x) offered the proof of concepts (timing, concurrency, on-the-fly programming) with a generous propensity to explode, the Dracula release is more refined and powerful with the addition of arrays, objects, events (and better explosions too). Additionally, the Dracula release is yet unoptimized and may suck all blood and life from your computer (anticipate spectacular crashes and other bloody disasters)... Please let us know if that happens. " - Show quoted text - _______________________________________________ chuck-users mailing list chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
Thanks so much for the advice.
best wishes,
Ed
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:20 PM, mike clemow
Edward,
I guess there's two things at play here. For starters, Ge Wang has a tendency to over-play the "disastrous crashes" of which Chuck is capable. He *is* being facetious. Chuck has not damaged anyone's computer, or ruined anyone's data to my knowledge. There is, however, as with all software released under the GNU Public License, no "guarantee" and downloading and running the software is technically "at your own risk," although I for one have never had any problems with Chuck or any GNU Public Licensed software that I would label "disastrous."
The worst Chuck has done for me is crashing it's own process and forcing me to restart it. It often does this when it should actually spit out some error message. It is also a tad more memory and CPU hungry than its developers would like it to be when it is "mature." I think that's what the real message is here.
Be not afraid. Chuck is good news.
Mike
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Edward Herbst
wrote: Can someone please advise if someone is being facetious or is there really a risk in the download? When you click the Download link the first paragraph reads:
"ChucK-1.2.x.x is part of the Dracula release of ChucK - why Dracula? While the previous release (Frankenstein/1.1.x.x) offered the proof of concepts (timing, concurrency, on-the-fly programming) with a generous propensity to explode, the Dracula release is more refined and powerful with the addition of arrays, objects, events (and better explosions too). Additionally, the Dracula release is yet unoptimized and may suck all blood and life from your computer (anticipate spectacular crashes and other bloody disasters)... Please let us know if that happens. " - Show quoted text - _______________________________________________ chuck-users mailing list chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
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A year or two ago, I actually had to force-restart my computer once or
twice, when I did something to the effect of this:
while (true) {
}
...but I think some kind of watchdog or "nice" feature has been added to
prevent this nowadays. The thing that ChucK does (I think) is hook onto the
audio driver at a pretty low level, so if something goes wrong there (in my
case I forgot to put a shred to sleep once in a while, giving the ChucK
runtime no chance to go in and do stuff) chances are it will make the
computer act sluggish. Again, this is no different from what any softsynth
or VST host has to deal with, and I suspect that the safety measures in
place practically cover all risks.
/Stefan
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Edward Herbst
Thanks so much for the advice. best wishes, Ed
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:20 PM, mike clemow
wrote: Edward,
I guess there's two things at play here. For starters, Ge Wang has a tendency to over-play the "disastrous crashes" of which Chuck is capable. He *is* being facetious. Chuck has not damaged anyone's computer, or ruined anyone's data to my knowledge. There is, however, as with all software released under the GNU Public License, no "guarantee" and downloading and running the software is technically "at your own risk," although I for one have never had any problems with Chuck or any GNU Public Licensed software that I would label "disastrous."
The worst Chuck has done for me is crashing it's own process and forcing me to restart it. It often does this when it should actually spit out some error message. It is also a tad more memory and CPU hungry than its developers would like it to be when it is "mature." I think that's what the real message is here.
Be not afraid. Chuck is good news.
Mike
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Edward Herbst
wrote: Can someone please advise if someone is being facetious or is there really a risk in the download? When you click the Download link the first paragraph reads:
"ChucK-1.2.x.x is part of the Dracula release of ChucK - why Dracula? While the previous release (Frankenstein/1.1.x.x) offered the proof of concepts (timing, concurrency, on-the-fly programming) with a generous propensity to explode, the Dracula release is more refined and powerful with the addition of arrays, objects, events (and better explosions too). Additionally, the Dracula release is yet unoptimized and may suck all blood and life from your computer (anticipate spectacular crashes and other bloody disasters)... Please let us know if that happens. " - Show quoted text - _______________________________________________ chuck-users mailing list chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
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-- Release me, insect, or I will destroy the Cosmos!
Mike; The worst Chuck has done for me is crashing it's own process and
forcing me to restart it.
Other potential dangers include lost sleep, spending too much on exotic game controllers, angry neighbours, over consumption of caffeine, disturbed pets and complaining partners. We might need to append those to the list. ;-) Kas.
Kas,
True, true. Also, there's no accounting for taste, as they say. So,
we can always add early 1990's techno to the list of possible adverse
events. :)
Mike
2010/8/3 Kassen
Mike;
The worst Chuck has done for me is crashing it's own process and forcing me to restart it.
Other potential dangers include lost sleep, spending too much on exotic game controllers, angry neighbours, over consumption of caffeine, disturbed pets and complaining partners. We might need to append those to the list. ;-) Kas. _______________________________________________ chuck-users mailing list chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
On 4 August 2010 01:38, mike clemow
Kas,
True, true. Also, there's no accounting for taste, as they say. So, we can always add early 1990's techno to the list of possible adverse events. :)
True! I found that a surprisingly large section of "serious computer-music" people in their late 20's/ early 30's has a soft-spot for gabber, even! Yours, Kas.
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Edward Herbst
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Kassen
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mike clemow
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Stefan Blixt