I just can't resist pointing out that I saw Ge last night in TWO different clips in an ABC Nightline piece on the Apple iPad. World renowned! In the second clip, an iPad had what looked like a circular piano keyboard. -Bill
On 1 April 2010 20:38, William Nye_COMCAST
I just can't resist pointing out that I saw Ge last night in TWO different clips in an ABC Nightline piece on the Apple iPad. World renowned! In the second clip, an iPad had what looked like a circular piano keyboard. -Bill
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/03/31/ipad-apps-for-music-making-whats-co... http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/03/31/ipad-apps-for-music-making-whats-co...I think the fragment you are referring to is there (amongst quite a few others). It's a shame the fragment of the interview with Ge are drawn out of their context. I'd like to hear his perspectives on this. One of the more insightful things about the iPad that I heard was that the dividing line between people who are very passionate about it and the people who are highly sceptical seems to be the line between people enthusiastic about creating things or consuming them. Ge is clearly at the fore-front of the "creative" side, yet doing very well in this consumer market so I'd like to hear his perspectives on this. Yours, Kas.
One of the more insightful things about the iPad that I heard was that the dividing line between people who are very passionate about it and the people who are highly sceptical seems to be the line between people enthusiastic about creating things or consuming them. Ge is clearly at the fore-front of the "creative" side, yet doing very well in this consumer market so I'd like to hear his perspectives on this.
Not speaking for Ge, but the impression I get is that he likes to make things anybody can have fun with. A piece of hardware you can interact with that's bigger is just going to be a place where more ideas that need more space can be implemented. I think the dividing line is between people who want to just make things for it and not pay anything to do it as opposed to the ones who are perfectly happy to invest in it for a chance to do things in a space that no one else offers. I think the iPhone -> iPad jump is like the Mac 512K to (say) a Powerbook 180c. Yeah, you could say the 180c was "just a Mac you can carry around". But there's more to it than that: capacity, speed, and what it's possible to do with more screen real estate and more base computing power.
Joe;
Not speaking for Ge, but the impression I get is that he likes to make things anybody can have fun with.
Maybe, yes. ChucK certainly made a lot of things very easy to have fun with that were previously more inaccessible. There might be a a lot of common ground there. Good point.
I think the dividing line is between people who want to just make things for it and not pay anything to do it as opposed to the ones who are perfectly happy to invest in it for a chance to do things in a space that no one else offers.
That's not really how I looked at it. Personally I think the financial investment into instruments or systems is typically a very minor one, as a part of the whole equation. A 100E/$ will get you a acoustical guitar, but then you need to learn how to play it; if you rate those hours at minimum wage then the financial price is a very small part of the total investment. I don't think anyone here is scared to invest; most of us will have tens, hundreds or perhaps even thousands of hours invested in learning ChucK, developing our instruments and so on. Purely financially speaking it would make sense for me (if such a thing existed) to buy/rent a license to be permitted to develop code on Linux. Of course I'm very much in favour of things not being like that but the financial side is a very minor aspect to that. No, what I really meant is that the iPad so-far seems more aimed at reading texts than writing them, more at watching movies than editing them, etc. Nowhere did I notice claims for portable "productivity" like we see with laptops. There is no issue with that at all; I carry a PSP on the train too and that's certainly not for "productivity" either. What fascinates me is that there is this new sort of device, that nobody seems yet sure what it can do or what it's good for, that comes with this set of rules and both the rules and the capabilities of the device lead to a lot of online debate. The landscape of computational devices is slowly shifting, which is of course totally natural. On the one hand closed devices are thriving and apparently Sony can afford to block the PS3 from installing Linux with the latest update and Apple can afford to say "no interpreters" on the iPad as only a small section of the market seems to want that sort of thing. At the same time systems for DIY development like our own are also thriving too and making things easier than they have ever been. I don't think there will be "world peace thanks to multi-touch" nor do I think the sky is falling over one restrictive license for some portable devices but this device and the debate around it still seem like a interesting phase in the shifting of this landscape to me. Yours, Kas.
This just came in on my Twitter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r76MLCmAHOg and this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5yKw2cYDWg (you too can follow Ge, just check here http://twitter.com/gewang ) Compare; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt4MWk_B2cY I also wanted to link to a clip of the piano in Tim Burton's "CorpseBride" that deforms during a duet, but there doesn't seem to be a clip of that exact scene online; just watch the whole thing, it's neither as morbid nor as sappy as the name would imply, I swear. Anyway; cool stuff. We urgently need GLucK so we can act like the proverbial "great artists" towards Beatmania some more (this is not to imply Activision are great artists). I can't stress enough how much we need scrolling ChucK arrows + a dancing Audicle "dude" styled like Dance Dance Revolution set to Perry's "Hack ChucK". Don't force me to do this in Fluxus; it wouldn't be the same. ;-) Yours, kas.
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