heuermh at gmail.com
Sat Dec 28 20:45:42 EST 2013
On this topic I wanted to point out a project "inspired by ChucK" in
the authors' words but not an implementation of the actual ChucK
syntax, Charlie Roberts' Gibber
There is a lot of good stuff in there as far as live coding
environment and cool audio APIs. There might also be some useful
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Casper Schipper
<casper.schipper at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Arve,
> I’ve been using ChucK for quite some time, but also started to get an
> interest for the Web Audio API. I think I agree that having chuck compile in
> a browser would give a huge boost for the language! It is very powerful to
> be able to directly share musical programs through the internet, without the
> receiver having to install or run external software. I do fear however that
> there is a strong difference between ChucK and the way that Web Audio API is
> a way of expressing time that is fundamentally different from any other
> programming language I know.
> Your implementation at first sight seems to me like like quite a thorough
> port of the complete structure of ChucK, complete with VM etc.. Does that
> mean that it will be possible to have sample accurate timing in your code
> it to be messy even for a simple drum machine. Of course there are ways of
> dealing with that by scheduling ahead and using the WebAudio API clock, but
> that would not work very well with the way ChucK deals with time. But maybe
> your implementation doesn’t require the clock to be accurate ? I’m very
> curious to hear what your experience has been!
> Anyway what surprised me (shocked is maybe a better word, considering the
> language, since it is fundamentally a functional language not that unlike
> Scheme or Lisp (and some powerful algorithmic musical tools have been built
> could have an advantage above the more traditional way ChucK deals with
> types and classes. When using ChucK I found that I almost always wanted to
> add functionalities to the arrays like iterating, choosing, sorting, mapping
> functions, lambda functions etc… These are also in the LicK library for
> ChucK, but I haven’t seen many people use that, I guess because it
> start (or they are very simple to add). Also it’s easy to change behavior of
> objects like adding methods dynamically to objects, which is very
> interesting from the point of view of on the fly programming.
> library to facilitate the generation of music with the Web Audio API.
> ChucK could be a source of inspiration because it has some very good ideas:
> - the => syntax is kind of cute and works well for uGens.
> - the native time type and way of dealing with time (.2::second => now) is
> very powerful.
> - the fact that chuck allows 1::sample feedback loops is great!
> - the control rate can be anything you need it to be.
> - the ability to spork shreds is very handy when dealing with any type of
> but also perhaps:
> Anyway keep me posted about your progress, I will closely watch your Github!
> Perhaps I can be of help concerning ChucK, because I cannot really help you
> with coffee script I’m afraid, since I don’t know it very well.
> * although I must admit that I think it can’t be done any better than LicK
> Casper Schipper
> casper.schipper at gmail.com
> +316 52322590
> On 27 dec. 2013, at 02:58, chuck-dev-request at lists.cs.princeton.edu wrote:
> Hi guys
> ChucK, ChucKJS, for which I'm seeking feedback from ChucK developers in
> particular. Web Audio API is used to produce sound. Very little of the
> language is implemented so far, I've just today finished end-to-end support
> (including a VM) for playing back a sine tone for a certain interval of time
> as in the following program:
> SinOsc sin => dac;
> 2::second => now;
> Even though this may seem minor, I'm pretty happy that this is at all
> possible just from within the browser :) As explained in the project's
> README, there is a self-contained example (examples/example1.html) which
> demonstrates the aforementioned sine wave playback capability.
> What do you guys think, are anyone else interested in being able to run
> ChucK programs in the browser? Anyone interested in helping out on ChucKJS
> (like ChucK it's GPL licensed)?
> My motivation for writing ChucKJS is to develop an online development
> environment for ChucK where one can execute the programs directly in the
> browser, I figure this will lower the threshold and make the language more
> fun to work with.
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