[chuck-users] Book of discussion ?

Prabhu Ram prabhuram at stagtravellers.com
Thu May 22 03:53:33 EDT 2008


HI Mike,
              I am Prabhu Ram, a newbie to the Chuck world. Reading the 
post, can you kindly mention which book is being appreciated.


Regards
Prabhu


Mike McGonagle wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Kassen <signal.automatique at gmail.com 
> <mailto:signal.automatique at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     2008/5/20 Mike McGonagle <mjmogo at gmail.com <mailto:mjmogo at gmail.com>>:
>
>
>         Thanks, while I have to still read your whole post, I kind of
>         figured this is what you meant. Guess after a while of hearing
>         a particular word, it starts to lose some of its meaning... I
>         will have to read your whole post now, as it looks on first
>         glance to be worth reading MORE than once...
>
>
>     If it looks like this is "hard" stuff that's entirely my fault. On
>     some level you already know all of this; knocking on a door with
>     the palm of your hand will sound different from how it does when
>     you knock it with your knuckles. It'll sound different in a few
>     ways at the same time (spectral content, volume, decay time etc)
>     after changing a single parameter. The ways in which is sounds
>     different could also be accomplished in other ways, like for
>     example knocking harder.
>
>
> My comment about having to read it was more because I am at work, and 
> didn't really have time at that moment. I guess my interest in hearing 
> your descriptions is because I don't (at least I haven't yet) tried to 
> create a realtime interface, and my idea of "mapping" is how to 
> control various parameters with various types of control signals. One 
> thing that I have done is to use fractal equations (who hasn't, right) 
> to control various parameters of a simple sinewave grain. The 
> parameters I use are "onset, pitch, amplitude, attack slope, decay 
> slope, phase, and placement". On the one hand, I have found some 
> really nice combinations, but more often than not, it still feels like 
> I am "shooting in the dark".
>
> I have thought about trying to implement some sort of "searching" 
> method that allows me to "audition" various random parameter set 
> possibilities, and then use those results to "compose" something later. 
>
> Also, your comment about "changing a single parameter" can be very 
> minimal or extremely different. I have used my same set of parameters 
> "onset, etc..." without addressing the phase of the sinewave, and it 
> amazes me how "dull" the sound is. Just that one parameter can make 
> the difference between "an experiment" or a "piece of music/sound 
> sculpture".
>
>
>
>     There's nothing new here, it's just like with so many other things
>     one might want to put in code; you have to be concious of the
>     phenomenon to type it up (or take it into account).
>
>
> I think this concept is very similar to something that Wendy Carlos 
> said in an interview. She had originally thought that through the use 
> of record, she would be able to eliminate the "performer", but in 
> doing so, she said that she found herself being forced into the role 
> of "performer".
>
> So to speak, to get the "ghost in the machine" to sing, she had to 
> learn how to play the instrument.
>
> Isn't that what we are trying to do here? Learn how to play this 
> "granular instrument"?
>  
>
>      
>
>
>         Just as a thank you, I also ordered a copy of Microsound, and
>         hope to have it next week.
>
>
>     Not being Curtis Roads I'm not sure exactly *how* this thanks me
>     but I appreciate the gesture :¬). I don't think you'll regret that
>     buy, it's the kind of book that'll be with you for years as a
>     reference and source of inspiration.
>
>
> I was thinking it was you that mentioned it on the list here, maybe it 
> was someone else..
>  
>
>
>
>     Happy synthesising,
>
>
> I will have to keep remembering this when I get to some of those 
> parameter combinations that aren't all that good...
>
> Mike
>
>  
>
>
>     Kas.
>
>
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