[chuck-users] STK shakers wrench rattling?

Kassen signal.automatique at gmail.com
Mon Sep 22 14:11:41 EDT 2008


Stephen;

In the Shaker's setupNum() function (uget_stk.cpp:12387), the
> frequencies of each resonator are set depending on the instrument
> type.  It looks like they are set to specific values depending on the
> instrument.  This is probably because they are designed to emulate
> very specific sounds.
>

Yes, that side to it I understood. It seems the underlying code is
relatively complex because the character of the different emulations (for
example the number of partials) varies quite a bit. It's a nice and
versatile UGen, I like it.


>
> You could probably get some interesting effects if you modified this
> code to multiply all frequencies by a variable such as freq, so that
> you'd have control over it at runtime.  But the answer is, I think in
> generate .freq() is not used for Shakers.
>

Ok, yes. for some of the presets, like the pebbles, tuning would make
relatively little sense and I can see how this could be the case. For
others, like the bamboo, I'm getting the impression like they *are* supposed
to be suitable for more melodic/tuned applications. I'd imagine that the
tuned bamboo is supposed to be capable of being a part of a anklung (sp?) or
similar instrument that's based on both particle behaviour *and* tuning.

In any case; the docs do state that .freq() does work so either the docs or
.freq() will have to change to line the two up. Personally I'd prefer tuned
particles over a extra line in the manual/reference but admittedly that
option is far more work.... :¬). BTW, I just looked up the speciffic example
for this UGen in /examples/stk/ and in line 21 of "shake-o-matic.ck" the
frequency *is* being set, though that might be a plain mistake, of course.

Perhaps Perry or Gary will have some time to comment on the intended
behaviour? There are quite a few exceptions for ChucK in the code so I could
even imagine this functionality differes between the plain STK and it's
ChucKist child by accident. I can well see your case here but I'm not
abandoning all hope for (cheap & easy) tuned rain and anklungs :¬).

Yours,
Kas.
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