[chuck-users] Reactable

[Andrew Turley]

Mark, that looks like a cool project. The solution of registering
several handlers that accept different numbers of arguments is a good
workaround, especially with the iPhone where you are limited to five
touch points. I would still love to have a more general solution, but
a pragmatic workaround moves things forward much better than a
theoretical fix.

By the way, I'm a big fan of OSCemote as well. But I did see that
touchOSC now has a UI editor, so I may have to go back and give that
another look. And I'm still playing with multi-touch web apps for the
iPhone.

andy

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Mark Cerqueira<mcerquei at princeton.edu> wrote:
> Andrew,
> For my final project in PLOrk last semester I wrote a ChucK class to
> interface with the iPhone app OSCemote. The multitouch portion of OSCemote
> implements TUIO and I included that data in the OSCemote.ck class I wrote.
> The "The Internals" section goes over how I got TUIO to "work" in ChucK. It
> may need some tweaking, but it's a start at getting TUIO right in ChucK. The
> link to the wiki page on the project is:
>
> http://wiki.cs.princeton.edu/index.php/PLOrk2009/MarkCerqueiraFinalProject
>
> Best,
> Mark
>
> On Jun 20, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Andrew Turley wrote:
>
>> You are definitely right. I didn't mean to imply in any way that ChucK
>> wasn't a good tool for doing things LIKE the Reactable, just that if
>> you specifically wanted to work with the Reactable (or another device
>> that spits out TUIO) then you would need to use a system other than
>> ChucK (which is not to say that you couldn't have ChucK somwhere in
>> the pipeline).
>>
>> Having said all that, ChucK is still my go-to system when I want to
>> grab some OSC and turn it into sound.
>>
>> andy
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 8:47 AM, mike clemow<gelfmuse at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> While ChucK does have some support for OSC, TUIO uses messages that
>>>> can have an arbitrary number of arguments, which ChucK's OSC receiver
>>>> does not support.
>>>
>>> Nothing a little glue code couldn't solve.  ;-)  There are also many
>>> other ways to get identity and position than those fiducials of the
>>> Reactable system.  I often use a camera and a little bit of the
>>> computer vision API that openFrameworks (or even Processing) provides.
>>>  You can get a lot of mileage out of those technologies without having
>>> to use what the Reactables people give you out-of-the-box, so to
>>> speak.
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Andrew Turley<aturley at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, the Reactable and ChucK don't really play nice together. It
>>>> uses a protocol called TUIO, which is based on OSC (OpenSoundControl).
>>>> While ChucK does have some support for OSC, TUIO uses messages that
>>>> can have an arbitrary number of arguments, which ChucK's OSC receiver
>>>> does not support.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully protocols like TUIO (and it's use by the Reactable) will
>>>> encourage someone in the ChucK developer community to look into
>>>> addressing this issue. I keep meaning to have a look at the source
>>>> code to try to figure out what's going on, but I never quite get that
>>>> far.
>>>>
>>>> For more discussion of this issue, check out this thread:
>>>> http://electro-music.com/forum/post-138241.html
>>>>
>>>> If you're interested in this type of thing then you should take a look
>>>> at the "Tangible User Interface Hack Day" that took place a few weeks
>>>> ago. There's some info over at CDM:
>>>>
>>>> http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/06/18/tangible-interface-hackday-games-creations-and-more-to-come/
>>>>
>>>> andy
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Hans Aberg<haberg at math.su.se> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Another type of HID (a "Tangible User Interface"): the Reactable.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hans
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc
>>>>>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactable
>>>>>  http://mtg.upf.es/reactable/
>>>>>
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