[chuck-users] blind user

Andrew C. Smith andrewchristophersmith at gmail.com
Sat Sep 4 21:15:14 EDT 2010


Yeah, that's tough to say.

I should say that aka.objects (http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~aka/max/) has one called aka.speech though, that speaks text. This could conceivably work with ChucK code, but it might be a bit of a drag.

I'm curious, though, and I hope this isn't insensitive--how do you control Max or PD in an auditory way? Both of those programs seem like their main focus (pun intended) is on visualization of algorithms.

-Andrew

On Sep 2, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Rich Caloggero wrote:

> *>I can't quite tell if you like PD / Max or not--if you do, have you
> looked into Brad Garton's chuck~ object for OSX? It's here:
> http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/chuck~/
> 
> Its something I should try again. The question is: will it work with a screen reader such as the built-in Apple screen reader? Guess I need to try it...
> -- Rich
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew C. Smith" <andrewchristophersmith at gmail.com>
> To: "ChucK Users Mailing List" <chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [chuck-users] blind user
> 
> 
>>> think the easiest way to architect this would be:
>>> - build a way of binding chuck classes / objects to gui
>>> - define exactly what can be exposed and thus manipulated via the gui
>>> (efrrably in code)
>> 
>> I don't have much of a comp sci background, but I think that the model
>> of one class (for example, SynthControl) being the gui for another
>> (SynthSounds) is a standard model. The issue with chuck is just that
>> the gui only exists on OSX, and even then it's just a couple of
>> buttons and sliders, so there's not much of an impetus for all the
>> linux users (who, let's admit, are probably the hardcore open source
>> devs among us) to work on extending the gui.
>> 
>> I can't quite tell if you like PD / Max or not--if you do, have you
>> looked into Brad Garton's chuck~ object for OSX? It's here:
>> http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/chuck~/
>> 
>> I sporadically worked on making this into a dylib for use with an
>> Objective-C based GUI, but I lost interest shortly after I got it
>> working, because I don't know much about programming and couldn't
>> figure out how to expose chuck's variables to the outside world.
>> 
>> Anyway, on a philosophical note, I think chuck is elegant. I like the
>> way that the text-based, algorithmic focus reduces the "tactile"
>> nature of Max and causes me to think in structural terms. Ironically,
>> Max now seems like it's capitalizing more on the post-Buchla
>> sentiment, and ChucK is coming from the post-Bell Labs ideal. But
>> that's another discussion.
>> 
>> -Andrew
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