[chuck-users] Manual for Version 1.3 (?)

Sat Oct 15 19:21:13 EDT 2016

Hello everybody, I just want to say I stumbled across the Kadenze course and think it's amazing, and it's free. You can really feel that ChucK was built to help people learn and enjoy and create.

I picked up the book also, item 5 in Spencer's list. It's a wonderful resource that works very well with the online course.

Also note that Kadenze offers Perry Cook's free course https://www.kadenze.com/courses/physics-based-sound-synthesis-for-games-and-interactive-systems-iv which continues to expand ChucK wisdom into the realm of physical modeling, which is my main interest. There's a book for that too. The code in the book is written in C, but all the examples (downloadable) are in ChucK, and ChucK is what Perry is teaching in this course.

So I'd say that there's a very strong, lively educational and learning community around ChucK, and I was happy to support it by buying the books. ChucK has enabled me to do things I've always wanted to do, like making a cloud of 200 oscillators that drifts up and down in frequency, each a fixed but changing distance from the next.

I'm very grateful for the Kadenze courses and would encourage anybody to check them out.

sincerely

Christian Huygen
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From: Blixa2 at gmx.net [mailto:Blixa2 at gmx.net]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 04:51 PM
To: chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu
Subject: Re: [chuck-users] Manual for Version 1.3 (?)

Thanks for the detailed answer and the links!

Well, seems my first impression was wrong ;-)

Blixa

Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Oktober 2016 um 19:44 Uhr
Von: "Spencer Salazar" <spencer at ccrma.stanford.edu>
An: "ChucK Users Mailing List" <chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu>
Betreff: Re: [chuck-users] Manual for Version 1.3 (?)
Hi,
Yes, the manual is not very well maintained right now- I think most of its content is still relevant to the language now, but small bits like how to install are a little different. Other, more up-to-date resources for learning include the language reference [1], which is not just a dry reference as the name would suggest, but a mix of a walkthrough and reference, and our free online video-based course [2], which is based on what we teach at California Institute of the Arts. The examples are a great resource (included when you install ChucK; go to File->Open Example in miniAudicle). Graham Coleman's "Notes on ChucK for Music" is also a good tutorial [3] and Perry's ChucKU has a lot of learning resources centralized in one place [4]. If you want to go a little deeper, the ChucK book [5] costs money but has a few free sample chapters. 

The individual who generously created and maintained the ChucK manual stepped down some time ago. Producing and maintaining high-quality documentation is a big job, and with all of the other resources available, the ChucK manual has not been the top priority. That being said we would welcome pull requests to ensure the manual is up-to-date, relevant, and useful (and actually there have been a few such PRs recently). 

In the last year we've been developing a number of major updates to the language and ecosystem. I have been working on miniAudicle for iPad, a tablet-oriented coding environment for ChucK, which is going into beta testing very soon, and a number of individuals have recently contributed to our growing collection of chugins [7]--its worth checking out the new ones for ChucK coders who are looking for new stuff to play with. Small but impactful bits like more informative exceptions have been developed (and are coming to a release soon). 

spencer

[1] http://chuck.stanford.edu/doc/language/
[2] https://www.kadenze.com/courses/introduction-to-programming-for-musicians-and-digital-artists/info
[3] http://www.dtic.upf.edu/~gcoleman/chuck/tutorial/tutorial.html
[4] https://www.cs.princeton.edu/~prc/ChucKU/
[5] https://www.manning.com/books/programming-for-musicians-and-digital-artists
[6] https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~spencer/mini-ipad/
[7] https://github.com/ccrma/chugins

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:05 PM, <Blixa2 at gmx.net> wrote:Is there a specific reason, why the manual is only available for Version 1.2 (chuck.cs.princeton.edu/release/files/chuck_manual.pdf) and even this one is hidden and not directly accessible, neither from chuck.cs.princeton.edu/doc/ nor chuck.cs.princeton.edu/doc/learn/ .

The first impression that I get from this is, that developers have lost their interest in ChucK. Do you think this impression is true?

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