From jean at menezesdarocha.info  Wed Nov  1 12:05:01 2017
From: jean at menezesdarocha.info (Jean Menezes da Rocha)
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 16:05:01 +0000
Subject: [chuck-users] Can I use ADSR UGen to envelope parameters other than
	gain (e.g. pitch)?
Message-ID: <CALRb6hJWJS0HfBVvoFbwttcubSkczuPTPxM6aYL-+M+8P2CApA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

the ADSR UGen, to me, seems to have effect only over amplitude (which is
its original function, I concede).
However, is there any use case where I can use ADSR to map, say, pitch
instead of amplitude, in order to avoid recurring to functions and for
loops?

Thanks in advance!
-- 
Jean Menezes da Rocha
Compositor
Professor
Doutorando em M?sica pela Universidade Federal da Bahia
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From heuermh at gmail.com  Wed Nov  1 12:17:38 2017
From: heuermh at gmail.com (Michael Heuer)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 11:17:38 -0500
Subject: [chuck-users] Can I use ADSR UGen to envelope parameters other
 than gain (e.g. pitch)?
In-Reply-To: <CALRb6hJWJS0HfBVvoFbwttcubSkczuPTPxM6aYL-+M+8P2CApA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALRb6hJWJS0HfBVvoFbwttcubSkczuPTPxM6aYL-+M+8P2CApA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOjYwMwOiyVVaGD__yt8sxw_hPf2yHgmw_tLrtd+1LsqKVAOjw@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, I use the following pattern often

220.0 => float f;
SinOsc osc => dac;
ASDR adsr => blackhole;

spork ~ updateAtSampleRate();

fun void updateAtSampleRate() {
  while (true) {
    f + adsr.last() * f => osc.freq;
    1::samp => now;
  }
}

There is also this pattern, which tries to encapsulate the above (whatever
you chuck into cv Gain(s) are provided as float parameter(s) to the tick
method)

https://github.com/heuermh/lick/blob/master/lick/module/Module.ck
https://github.com/heuermh/lick/blob/master/examples/moduleExample.ck

Cheers,

   michael


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Jean Menezes da Rocha <
jean at menezesdarocha.info> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> the ADSR UGen, to me, seems to have effect only over amplitude (which is
> its original function, I concede).
> However, is there any use case where I can use ADSR to map, say, pitch
> instead of amplitude, in order to avoid recurring to functions and for
> loops?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> --
> Jean Menezes da Rocha
> Compositor
> Professor
> Doutorando em M?sica pela Universidade Federal da Bahia
>
> _______________________________________________
> chuck-users mailing list
> chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu
> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
>
>
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From mario.buoninfante at gmail.com  Wed Nov  1 12:52:51 2017
From: mario.buoninfante at gmail.com (Mario Buoninfante)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 16:52:51 +0000
Subject: [chuck-users] Can I use ADSR UGen to envelope parameters other
 than gain (e.g. pitch)?
In-Reply-To: <CAOjYwMwOiyVVaGD__yt8sxw_hPf2yHgmw_tLrtd+1LsqKVAOjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALRb6hJWJS0HfBVvoFbwttcubSkczuPTPxM6aYL-+M+8P2CApA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOjYwMwOiyVVaGD__yt8sxw_hPf2yHgmw_tLrtd+1LsqKVAOjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHs=M8R+_ughW-3usVVhSH-kdZnEZWqoH+dy7Kw2uagsT6Qs1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

yap, the following is a possible solution:

Step step => ADSR adsr => SinOsc oscil => dac;

step.next(500);
adsr.set(5::ms, 150::ms, 1, 500::ms);

while(true){
    adsr.keyOn();

    400::ms => now;

    adsr.keyOff();

    1000::ms => now;
}

cheers,
Mario

2017-11-01 16:17 GMT+00:00 Michael Heuer <heuermh at gmail.com>:

> Yes, I use the following pattern often
>
> 220.0 => float f;
> SinOsc osc => dac;
> ASDR adsr => blackhole;
>
> spork ~ updateAtSampleRate();
>
> fun void updateAtSampleRate() {
>   while (true) {
>     f + adsr.last() * f => osc.freq;
>     1::samp => now;
>   }
> }
>
> There is also this pattern, which tries to encapsulate the above (whatever
> you chuck into cv Gain(s) are provided as float parameter(s) to the tick
> method)
>
> https://github.com/heuermh/lick/blob/master/lick/module/Module.ck
> https://github.com/heuermh/lick/blob/master/examples/moduleExample.ck
>
> Cheers,
>
>    michael
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Jean Menezes da Rocha <
> jean at menezesdarocha.info> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> the ADSR UGen, to me, seems to have effect only over amplitude (which is
>> its original function, I concede).
>> However, is there any use case where I can use ADSR to map, say, pitch
>> instead of amplitude, in order to avoid recurring to functions and for
>> loops?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>> --
>> Jean Menezes da Rocha
>> Compositor
>> Professor
>> Doutorando em M?sica pela Universidade Federal da Bahia
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> chuck-users mailing list
>> chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu
>> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
>>
>>
>
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From jean at menezesdarocha.info  Wed Nov  1 13:13:53 2017
From: jean at menezesdarocha.info (Jean Menezes da Rocha)
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:13:53 +0000
Subject: [chuck-users] Can I use ADSR UGen to envelope parameters other
 than gain (e.g. pitch)?
In-Reply-To: <CAHs=M8R+_ughW-3usVVhSH-kdZnEZWqoH+dy7Kw2uagsT6Qs1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALRb6hJWJS0HfBVvoFbwttcubSkczuPTPxM6aYL-+M+8P2CApA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOjYwMwOiyVVaGD__yt8sxw_hPf2yHgmw_tLrtd+1LsqKVAOjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHs=M8R+_ughW-3usVVhSH-kdZnEZWqoH+dy7Kw2uagsT6Qs1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALRb6hLpsO_qgkaszzoWrN8u1PK8p9KXKEicHMqKysgqtoH1nw@mail.gmail.com>

Great! That was exactly what I wanted (and suspected but couldn't figure
out)!

Thank you very much, guys!

Em qua, 1 de nov de 2017 ?s 15:04, Mario Buoninfante <
mario.buoninfante at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Hi,
>
> yap, the following is a possible solution:
>
> Step step => ADSR adsr => SinOsc oscil => dac;
>
> step.next(500);
> adsr.set(5::ms, 150::ms, 1, 500::ms);
>
> while(true){
>     adsr.keyOn();
>
>     400::ms => now;
>
>     adsr.keyOff();
>
>     1000::ms => now;
> }
>
> cheers,
> Mario
>
> 2017-11-01 16:17 GMT+00:00 Michael Heuer <heuermh at gmail.com>:
>
>> Yes, I use the following pattern often
>>
>> 220.0 => float f;
>> SinOsc osc => dac;
>> ASDR adsr => blackhole;
>>
>> spork ~ updateAtSampleRate();
>>
>> fun void updateAtSampleRate() {
>>   while (true) {
>>     f + adsr.last() * f => osc.freq;
>>     1::samp => now;
>>   }
>> }
>>
>> There is also this pattern, which tries to encapsulate the above
>> (whatever you chuck into cv Gain(s) are provided as float parameter(s) to
>> the tick method)
>>
>> https://github.com/heuermh/lick/blob/master/lick/module/Module.ck
>> https://github.com/heuermh/lick/blob/master/examples/moduleExample.ck
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>    michael
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Jean Menezes da Rocha <
>> jean at menezesdarocha.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> the ADSR UGen, to me, seems to have effect only over amplitude (which is
>>> its original function, I concede).
>>> However, is there any use case where I can use ADSR to map, say, pitch
>>> instead of amplitude, in order to avoid recurring to functions and for
>>> loops?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> --
>>> Jean Menezes da Rocha
>>> Compositor
>>> Professor
>>> Doutorando em M?sica pela Universidade Federal da Bahia
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> chuck-users mailing list
>>> chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu
>>> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> chuck-users mailing list
>> chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu
>> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> chuck-users mailing list
> chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu
> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
>
-- 
Jean Menezes da Rocha
Compositor
Professor
Doutorando em M?sica pela Universidade Federal da Bahia
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From ericheep at gmail.com  Wed Nov  1 13:36:52 2017
From: ericheep at gmail.com (Eric Heep)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 10:36:52 -0700
Subject: [chuck-users] Can I use ADSR UGen to envelope parameters other
 than gain (e.g. pitch)?
In-Reply-To: <CALRb6hLpsO_qgkaszzoWrN8u1PK8p9KXKEicHMqKysgqtoH1nw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALRb6hJWJS0HfBVvoFbwttcubSkczuPTPxM6aYL-+M+8P2CApA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOjYwMwOiyVVaGD__yt8sxw_hPf2yHgmw_tLrtd+1LsqKVAOjw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHs=M8R+_ughW-3usVVhSH-kdZnEZWqoH+dy7Kw2uagsT6Qs1Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALRb6hLpsO_qgkaszzoWrN8u1PK8p9KXKEicHMqKysgqtoH1nw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAByBKMLqLVjcimJw3H3Uq2SzHfq8phpqno9pARhGDyu4_TtOCg@mail.gmail.com>

This might be shameless plug for a few Chugins I created, but I thought it
might be up your alley.

I made two Chugins a while back that deal with atypical envelope types, one
for power based envelopes, and one based on window functions. I enjoy using
window function envelopes for sine sweeps other types of control; here are
two short examples.


This is the power based Chugin.

PowerADSR pow => blackhole;

// envelope durations
pow.set(10::ms, 10::ms, 1.0, 10::ms);
// curves for attack, decay, and release
pow.setCurves(0.5, 2.0, 0.5);

spork ~ printValue();

pow.keyOn();
20::ms => now;
pow.keyOff();
10::ms => now;

fun void printValue() {
    while (true) {
        <<< "Power ADSR Value:", pow.value() >>>;
        1::ms => now;
    }
}


And here is the window function based Chugin.

WinFuncEnv win => dac;

// set for a Blackman window
win.setBlackman();

// envelope durations
win.attackTime(25::ms);
win.releaseTime(25::ms);

spork ~ printValue();

win.keyOn();
25::ms => now;
win.keyOff();
25::ms => now;

fun void printValue() {
    while (true) {
        <<< "Window Value:", win.windowValue() >>>;
        1::ms => now;
    }
}

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Jean Menezes da Rocha <
jean at menezesdarocha.info> wrote:

> Great! That was exactly what I wanted (and suspected but couldn't figure
> out)!
>
> Thank you very much, guys!
>
> Em qua, 1 de nov de 2017 ?s 15:04, Mario Buoninfante <
> mario.buoninfante at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> yap, the following is a possible solution:
>>
>> Step step => ADSR adsr => SinOsc oscil => dac;
>>
>> step.next(500);
>> adsr.set(5::ms, 150::ms, 1, 500::ms);
>>
>> while(true){
>>     adsr.keyOn();
>>
>>     400::ms => now;
>>
>>     adsr.keyOff();
>>
>>     1000::ms => now;
>> }
>>
>> cheers,
>> Mario
>>
>> 2017-11-01 16:17 GMT+00:00 Michael Heuer <heuermh at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Yes, I use the following pattern often
>>>
>>> 220.0 => float f;
>>> SinOsc osc => dac;
>>> ASDR adsr => blackhole;
>>>
>>> spork ~ updateAtSampleRate();
>>>
>>> fun void updateAtSampleRate() {
>>>   while (true) {
>>>     f + adsr.last() * f => osc.freq;
>>>     1::samp => now;
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> There is also this pattern, which tries to encapsulate the above
>>> (whatever you chuck into cv Gain(s) are provided as float parameter(s) to
>>> the tick method)
>>>
>>> https://github.com/heuermh/lick/blob/master/lick/module/Module.ck
>>> https://github.com/heuermh/lick/blob/master/examples/moduleExample.ck
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>    michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Jean Menezes da Rocha <
>>> jean at menezesdarocha.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> the ADSR UGen, to me, seems to have effect only over amplitude (which
>>>> is its original function, I concede).
>>>> However, is there any use case where I can use ADSR to map, say, pitch
>>>> instead of amplitude, in order to avoid recurring to functions and for
>>>> loops?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>> --
>>>> Jean Menezes da Rocha
>>>> Compositor
>>>> Professor
>>>> Doutorando em M?sica pela Universidade Federal da Bahia
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> chuck-users mailing list
>>>> chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu
>>>> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> chuck-users mailing list
>>> chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu
>>> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> chuck-users mailing list
>> chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu
>> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
>>
> --
> Jean Menezes da Rocha
> Compositor
> Professor
> Doutorando em M?sica pela Universidade Federal da Bahia
>
> _______________________________________________
> chuck-users mailing list
> chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu
> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users
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From mylenthes at gmail.com  Mon Nov 20 00:15:41 2017
From: mylenthes at gmail.com (Daniel Meowington)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 00:15:41 -0500
Subject: [chuck-users] How do I load ChuGins?
Message-ID: <CAFChw=L6K4kT_MWkyAO7wjLrDPXppmz7pN2ifK3J_sNFRhoCcQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm on arch linux. Chuck and miniAudicle version 1.3.5.2.

I installed the entire collection from git. Trying in miniAudicle to use
`GVerb` or any other ChuGin for that matter outputs the message "undefined
type 'GVerb'...".

I also tried the command line by setting chugin-load to auto, setting the
path, doing `chugin:GVerb`, none of which worked, all give the same message.

I doubled checked and they are indeed in my /usr/local/lib/chuck folder.
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From mylenthes at gmail.com  Tue Nov 28 19:45:12 2017
From: mylenthes at gmail.com (Daniel Meowington)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 19:45:12 -0500
Subject: [chuck-users] How do I load ChuGins?
In-Reply-To: <CAFChw=L6K4kT_MWkyAO7wjLrDPXppmz7pN2ifK3J_sNFRhoCcQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFChw=L6K4kT_MWkyAO7wjLrDPXppmz7pN2ifK3J_sNFRhoCcQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFChw=J2e39XEDepiTacyh8KvVp41wARcq5C02FnrOtQMqsBxg@mail.gmail.com>

Reply to me you scrubs. The default reverbs suck, and I don't feel like
learning how to make a highly configurable reverb from scratch.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Daniel Meowington <mylenthes at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm on arch linux. Chuck and miniAudicle version 1.3.5.2.
>
> I installed the entire collection from git. Trying in miniAudicle to use
> `GVerb` or any other ChuGin for that matter outputs the message "undefined
> type 'GVerb'...".
>
> I also tried the command line by setting chugin-load to auto, setting the
> path, doing `chugin:GVerb`, none of which worked, all give the same message.
>
> I doubled checked and they are indeed in my /usr/local/lib/chuck folder.
>
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From prc at CS.Princeton.EDU  Wed Nov 29 19:43:37 2017
From: prc at CS.Princeton.EDU (Perry Cook)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:43:37 -0800
Subject: [chuck-users] Loading ChuGins (from Daniel Meowington)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23.1511974806.3033.chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu>
References: <mailman.23.1511974806.3033.chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu>
Message-ID: <EE4AC616-2F5B-4888-973A-F7D09ECB03B9@cs.princeton.edu>

I don?t have your environment, but some directory should do
the trick.  On my Mac, it?s in /usr/lib/chuck 

For now, you could try loading the specific ChuGin by name 
at runtime:

chuck  -chugin:<name>   yourchuckfiles.ck

I put the chugin I want right in the same directory just
to make sure.

Hope this helps.  If it does, then you can probably work backward
to finding the right directory to stash them.

PRC

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> Reply to me you scrubs. The default reverbs suck, and I don't feel like
> learning how to make a highly configurable reverb from scratch.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Daniel Meowington <mylenthes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm on arch linux. Chuck and miniAudicle version 1.3.5.2.
>> 
>> I installed the entire collection from git. Trying in miniAudicle to use
>> `GVerb` or any other ChuGin for that matter outputs the message "undefined
>> type 'GVerb'...".
>> 
>> I also tried the command line by setting chugin-load to auto, setting the
>> path, doing `chugin:GVerb`, none of which worked, all give the same message.
>> 
>> I doubled checked and they are indeed in my /usr/local/lib/chuck folder.
>> 
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