[chuck-users] static strings and the future

[JP Yepez]

Hello all,

I can't say much about the development part itself, but in my experience
I've noticed that ChucK is still being used widely at an academic level. I
understand it's being used in a few universities that include creative
technology programs and computer orchestra courses in their curriculums,
including CalArts, Stanford, and VUW (New Zealand). Like Mario mentioned,
it is a core part of a few Kadenze courses; I've been involved as a
producer/teaching assistant in a couple of them and it seems like it's a
popular language among students who are just learning how to code, and
musicians who would like to develop more advanced projects. Also, ChucK
Racks popped up a couple of months ago, which was pretty exciting. So yeah,
I think there's quite a bit going on, but it certainly would be nice to
have a more active community (I'm hoping to contribute, and hopefully I'll
get to it before too long).

About the *static strings* issue, I think they're kind of in a shady spot.
Like Gonzalo mentioned, you can't have static non-primitives in your code,
but there is a workaround to this by declaring objects as a reference and
then initializing them outside of the class. However, if you try to do this
with strings, it will tell you that they're a primitive type and it throws
an error. The best hack I've found for this is through arrays (even if the
size of the array is 1 in many cases). Here's an example:


public class Container {


    static string staticString[];



    public static void init() {

        new string[1] @=> staticString;

        "Hello World" @=> staticString[0];

    }



    public static void print(){

        <<< staticString[0] >>>;

    }

}


Container.init();

Container.print();



You don't really need an init() function, and you can initialize the array
on the actual script, but I usually end up with much larger classes, which
is why I like to keep things clean.
Hope this helps!

Best,

JP


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On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:19 AM, mario buoninfante <
mario.buoninfante at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to ask the same question about the development status.
>
> the only thing I can say is that also if the development seems to be a bit
> stuck, on the other side I noticed that they're pushing on the educational
> side (see Kadenze courses), and if you look at the github repository,
> there's been some update in the last 2 years.
>
> but as you guys said, it's important to know what's the plan ;)
>
> it's a couple of years I'm really diving into ChucK and I strongly believe
> that is a good programming language which opens up a lot of possibilities
> that other languages don't.
>
> but at the same time I feel like it's been a bit abandoned (maybe that's a
> huge word, let's say put aside ;) ) and of course using a "tool"  which has
> an "uncertain future" it's not the best thing.
>
> I wish I was able to offer my contribution to the development, but
> unfortunately I'm not really into C/C++, I'm more a "scripting language
> guy" :)
>
> btw, it would be nice to hear what developers and/or other users have to
> say about it.
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Mario
>
>
>
> On 12/01/18 22:14, Gonzalo wrote:
>
>> Yes, I'm wondering the same thing. There's a Facebook group (
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1593843507578422/) but it doesn't look
>> super active either.
>>
>> As far as static strings: I'm pretty sure you just can't have static
>> non-primitives. What are you trying to achieve?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gonzalo
>>
>>
>> On 13.01.18 00:20, Atte wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I've been away for a long time and surprised that activity seems to have
>>> slowed down a lot, both on the development of new releases chuck and the
>>> life of this list. Am I looking at the wrong places? What's the status of
>>> chuck development now and in the future?
>>>
>>> I really like chuck (mostly the timing and sporking including
>>> Machine.add()), should I look other places for a language that will privide
>>> a more secure future? I'm on linux and looked at Csound, Super Collider and
>>> PD, each has it's challenges in how I work (realtime generative and
>>> algorithmic MIDI), python seems to have realtime problems (garbage
>>> collection at random points). Any idea what former chuck users have
>>> switched to now?
>>>
>>> Back to chuck! A problem that I never been able to solve, static strings:
>>>
>>> public class A {
>>>      "b" @=> static string B;
>>>
>>>      public static void C(){
>>>     <<<B>>>;
>>>      }
>>> }
>>>
>>> That throws an error, how would I go about what I'm trying to do?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>
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