[chuck-users] chugins will not load/compile using on windows10

Jack Atherton lja at ccrma.stanford.edu
Wed May 23 10:54:00 EDT 2018

Hi Ben,

Sorry to hear you went down that rabbit hole. I believe the intended action
is to retarget the solution to whatever is on your machine for building the

I've just set up my own Windows machine within the last few days, and
installed miniAudicle this morning. What I am seeing when I start the VM
with log level = info is that miniAudicle is only looking in C:\Program
Files\ChucK\chugins\ for the location of chugins, instead of looking in all
the folders of the miniAudicle chugins preferences pane window. This is an
old bug that I think we fixed at some point, but maybe the official
installer didn't get updated yet. The installer actually installs the
chugins at C:\Program Files (x86)\ChucK\chugins\ if you choose the default
install location, so the temporary fix is to make a new folder C:\Program
Files\ChucK\chugins\ and copy all of the chugins over into there.

If you set the ChucK>Log Level>Info in the menu bar before starting the VM,
you should be able to see a printout of where it is scanning for chugins
and which ones it loads successfully in the console window. When I did this
on my new laptop, I was able to get it to load all the provided chugins,
and run a script using one of them without syntax errors.

Again, sorry for the hassle. Let me know if this works.


On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 7:26 PM, Ben Sandvik <bpsandvik at gmail.com> wrote:

> That kind of makes sense because when I have installed there is a
> chugins folder created that has a bunch of .CHUG files dated 10/21/2015.
> These all work in  However, I cant install or use any of the newer
> chugins in on Win10 and when upgrading to none of them work.
> I have also tried to compile the chugins from the github repo as you
> suggested, so far no luck and it has sent me down quite the rabbit hole
> trying to find the right combination of Visual Studio versions, build
> tools, SDKs, Windows 2010 compilers, etc. etc.  I am now stuck on build
> errors that I just cant figure out.
> The main issue with compiling the chugins in chuck on Windows 10
> seems to be the use of the v100 build tools in the makefile for each
> chugin. I think I have installed every v100 related build tool on the
> internet :)
> running 'make win32' from mingw64 results in the following errors for the
> ABSaturator (the first chugin in the makefile) and stops compiling:
> "Build FAILED.
> "C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSaturator\ABSaturator.vcxproj" (default target)
> (1) ->
> (PrepareForBuild target) -> C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\
> v4.0\Microsoft.CppBuild.targets(297,5): warning MSB8003: Could not find
> WindowsSDKDir variable from the registry. TargetFrameworkVersion or
> PlatformToolset may be set to an invalid version number.
> [C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSaturator\ABSaturator.vcxproj]
> "C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSaturator\ABSaturator.vcxproj" (default target)
> (1) ->
> (ClCompile target) -> C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\
> v4.0\Platforms\Win32\Microsoft.Cpp.Win32.Targets(153,5): error MSB6006:
> "CL.exe" exited with code -1073741515. [C:\Users\Ben\chugins\
> ABSaturator\ABSaturator.vcxproj]"
> I noticed on the github that a fix on Jan 17 that changed the toolset of
> each chugin from v141 to v100, so as an experiment I changed each line of
> <PlatformToolset>v100</PlatformToolset> back to <PlatformToolset>v141</PlatformToolset>
> in the ABSaturator makefile.
> Running make win32 resulted in a pretty verbose log and a statement in
> mingw64 of a successful build for ABSaturator!!
> Next, running sudo make install resulted in the following:
> $ make install
> CHUCK_STRICT=1 make -C ABSaturator/ install
> make[1]: Entering directory 'C:/Users/Ben/chugins/ABSaturator'
> gcc -O3 -Werror -c -o ABSaturator.o ABSaturator.cpp
> process_begin: CreateProcess(NULL, gcc -O3 -Werror -c -o ABSaturator.o
> ABSaturator.cpp, ...) failed.
> make (e=2): The system cannot find the file specified.
> So I moved the contents of ABSaturator/Release to ABSaturator/ and changed
> the file name of ABSaturator.obj to ABSaturator.o and ran make install
> again.  This time, no log of any ABSaturator activity.  I tried using the
> chugin again in miniAudicle and got the same 'undefined type' error.
> So ... are there any Windows 10 users or devs that have succesfully
> installed and used the chugins for  Any guidance would be
> appreciated. Ihave basically used all my free time for a week on this.  I
> really want to use the ArrayOutOfBounds line number features and to try out
> the new NHHall reverb :)
> Thanks
> Ben
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:19 AM, Jack Atherton <lja at ccrma.stanford.edu>
> wrote:
>> I am pretty sure that chugins that worked with 1.3.X have an internal
>> version number that is incompatible with -- the API for chugins
>> changed. You could try recompiling the chugins from the chugin repo and
>> seeing if that works. I am not sure if the Windows installer also installs
>> chugins like the Mac installer does (at least, I'm pretty sure the Mac
>> installer does).
>> That sounds nasty about the log level crash. I wonder if it is something
>> that happens when attempting to load incompatible chugins... we should
>> probably fix it if that's what's going on!
>> -Jack
>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Ben Sandvik <bpsandvik at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> List,
>>> I have been trying to update to chuck for a few days, but I
>>> can't get chugins to compile or load on Windows 10 64-bit using
>>> miniAudicle.  I'm getting the "undefined type '...'  in declaration" error
>>> message for every chugin when adding to the VM, including ones that had
>>> been working correctly with  Other .ck files that don't use
>>> chugins seem to be working fine.  Here is what I have tried
>>> Downloaded the 1.4 executable and went through the standard installation
>>> I have copied the files from the chugins GitHub zip file to:
>>> C:\WINDOWS\system32/ChucK
>>> C:\ProgramFiles\ChucK\chugins
>>> C:\ProgramFiles(x86)\ChucK\chugins
>>> and made sure the directory is listed under the chugins preferences in
>>> miniAudicle.  Not sure which is best directory, just trying everything.
>>> I have also tried just putting the github files for a specific chugin in
>>> the same folder with an example .ck files.  Still the same error message.
>>> If I uninstall 1.4 and re-install the older chugins are working
>>> fine, but newer ones like Wavetable and ExpEnv are not.
>>> Any ideas?  Am I missing some obvious step during installation?  Is
>>> there a Windows10-specific issue?
>>> Also, not sure if this is related, but changing the Log Level to
>>> anything other than System causes miniAudicle to crash when starting the vm.
>>> thanks
>>> Ben
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