[chuck-users] => now

[Mario Buoninfante]

Hi Herman,

In ChucK you can also go sub-sample rate (ie 0.5::sample => now;).
I wouldn't worry about the *rate* of the events (how fast they're
generated), I think it's slightly more complex than that.
I would assume (and I'd like to ask someone on the list more expert than me
to validate this statement) that as long as the event can be
*captured* *at* *low
level *by ChucK, then you can use it to trigger *now*.
In the case of USB MIDI then, there are also some aspects of the
implementation of the various MIDI libraries that help in scenarios where
too many msg are sent.
For example, the computer and/or the hardware connected to it, can
communicate the fact that they're busy and thus whichever of the 2 is the
one that sends the msg, can wait before sending the next one (all this
assuming that both implemented USB MIDI the same way).
Now, as far as I know this mechanism is not always in place (both in USB
MIDI libraries and hardware/software products), and I honestly don't know
whether or not ChucK uses it (I suppose it would be the case of having a
look at the source code - RtMidi and the way ChucK interfaces to it).

About* now*, this can work with *dur* and* time* data types and *events*
(Event, MIDI, HID).
About the MIDI use case, your *MidiIn* objects receives a MIDI msg (so
ChucK is aware of the msg already) and then triggers *now*.
At that point your script/program proceeds and go to the next instruction
(ie whatever else in the code comes next).

Cheers,
Mario


On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 11:56, herman verbaeten <hverb54 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Mario,
>
> So once you started the VM to run,  time floats at the speed of  44100
> times  a sec. So the "now" can only see things if they'r fed into it at a
> frequency less or even a 44100 th time of a second.
>
> Does this mean that i can feed anything into the "now"? Or only things
> that contain a kind of trigger? But in case of a midi message this trigger
> "min => now" kind of wakes up chuck to do the nex thing on the list? e.g.
> read the incoming message?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Herman
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> *Van:* chuck-users-bounces at lists.cs.princeton.edu <
> chuck-users-bounces at lists.cs.princeton.edu> namens Mario Buoninfante <
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> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 11 februari 2020 11:07
> *Aan:* ChucK Users Mailing List <chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [chuck-users] => now
>
> to be a bit more precise, when you have something like
> min => now;
> your program waits for a MIDI event in order to advance, but the ChucK
> time is still running.
> Anyway, more info in the link I shared :)
>
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 11:03, Mario Buoninfante <
> mario.buoninfante at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Herman,
>
> You can use Events/MIDI/HID to advance in time.
> Have a look at this chapter if you want to know more about it
> https://en.flossmanuals.net/chuck/_full/#events
> In a nutshell what happens is that a MIDI event is received and that turns
> into a *trigger*, so your program advances in time. Otherwise it stays
> there until a MIDI even happens.
> See it more as a trigger than a *time constant* if that makes sense.
>
> Cheers,
> Mario
>
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 10:59, herman verbaeten <hverb54 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to understand what's really  happening in chuck.
> I thought i did untill i saw some exemples of midi.
>
> Normaly you can only feed time or duration into now ( e.g. 10::ms => now)
> But in case you are awaiting a midi-in message you write :
>
> MidiIn min;
> while (true)
> {
> min => now
> }
>
> So in fact do you assign the message to time? Total confusion!
> Thanks for your answer.
>
> Herman
>
>
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