I will take a look at it asap. I was trying to record a screencast of what i did in the presentation, but gtk-recordMyDesktop and chuck didnt share alsa and i cant get recordMyDesktop to run with Jack. I will give some more info about what i did in a while. Very cool about the timing! Em 28 de novembro de 2011 20:45, Kassen escreveu:

While on the topic of Vim;

The most recent ck.vim I could find in the list archives is dated 30/10/07 and by Eduard Aylon. It works fine, so that's good. It also doesn't contain some of the newer stuff (I can't find the BlitFoo UGens) and contains some things I don't think we actually have ("goto", which is nice to not have and "switch" which we could use, for example). That's not meant as a critique, it's great that that one is here already.

Before I start cargo-culting for a little update, does anyone with more expertise have a more recent one with improvements since then?

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I have moved onto the command line with a combination of chuck --loop,nano, git and and a bash script linking them together. http://ablelemon.co.uk/chuck/chuck-live-coding/ Have also been spending a lot of time in emacs but yet to look into anemacs solution. Am very interested in looking into terminal based chuck ides On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Kassen wrote:

On 28/11/2011, Renato Fabbri wrote:

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I will take a look at it asap.

I was trying to record a screencast of what i did in the presentation, but gtk-recordMyDesktop and chuck didnt share alsa and i cant get recordMyDesktop to run with Jack.

I will give some more info about what i did in a while. Very cool about the timing!

Great stuff! Thanks for taking the time.

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At the moment I am using git mainly to keep a record of my live coding. Chuck Live Coding as part of HELOpg https://github.com/witt0191/Chuck-Live-Coding-Record Obviously using git it is easy to revert back to earlier versions which allows the idea of recapitulation and chorus playing. My intention is to expand the script so it track running shreds against the git file hash so you can directly interact with the versioning. Something I have always wanted to try is a collaborative, distributed performance using version control to link the two performances. Thinking back the Audicles version control was one of the things that first interested me in ChucK On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Kassen wrote:

On 29/11/2011, Scott Hewitt wrote:

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Am very interested in looking into terminal based chuck ides

Me too, and as there are more posts to this topic I get more interested in exactly what people are doing and why. Some of this strikes me as quite exotic (but maybe I just got a bit baffled at the HUGE number Renato is sending into the blown bottle's vibrato gain :-) ).

Do I understand correctly that you are using Git so you can easily return to older version of the code, maybe so you can do the equivalent of traditional musical structures that regularly return to thems or choruses? It's a bit of a shame that the Audcle's take on version control wasn't explored in more depth. Maybe the Audicle was a bit too far ahead of its time, at the time.

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well, i wanted to do any documentation of what i did, so here it goes as it came. No sound, just a visual screenshot (perfect for reading as you hear some music of your preference :P) I did not see how it is and cant look that now. The mpeg files are running ok here, i am using mplayer in linux. But they did not run in Kaffeine and another player (dont reacall its name). presentation-part1.mpeg http://ubuntuone.com/0w8vde6POCJdUhAfDRCB0G presentation-part1-REM-and-cows.mpeg http://ubuntuone.com/2biXjEGbLARAG9gyJf8MmL presentation-part2-improvisation.mpeg http://ubuntuone.com/2l6W8HhAEcw5DTcuLxP2wn presentation-part3-soundscapes.mpeg http://ubuntuone.com/6UXsfV59e7AnvOtAJjWKAO presentation-part4-improvisation2-ending.mpeg (uploading) http://ubuntuone.com/55te5BtDx7Fb9DdkPlezLV Dont know if they are uploaded right, i should put them on Vimeo. I would like to have my partners screens, but he had a problem with his lap. Vilson, where is the code u used to play with? all the best and cheers, Renato Em 28 de novembro de 2011 20:52, Kassen escreveu:

On 28/11/2011, Renato Fabbri wrote:

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I will take a look at it asap.

I was trying to record a screencast of what i did in the presentation, but gtk-recordMyDesktop and chuck didnt share alsa and i cant get recordMyDesktop to run with Jack.

I will give some more info about what i did in a while. Very cool about the timing!

Great stuff! Thanks for taking the time.

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On 30/11/2011, Renato Fabbri wrote:

well, i wanted to do any documentation of what i did, so here it goes as it came. No sound, just a visual screenshot (perfect for reading as you hear some music of your preference :P)

Really cool! I like how you make a glorious mess instead of the stark minimalism of the other livecoding I've seen. I'm not sure how this would scale, but the difference is exciting. Thanks! Kas.

Hey Kassen and other Chuckists! I think it is interesting to note we used an alternative approach considering the sync between Renato and me. The sound was generated by Renato using ChucK/Vim/Jack and by me using ChucK/Emacs/Jack without sync. The audio from both of us was passed to a Pd patch running on a third computer operated by Gilson Beck, another composer, part of the trio (FooBarBaz). Gilson spatialized and mixed the audio generated by us with a visual interface: the movements of his hands were tracked by a "color tracker" implemented by Ricardo Fabbri on Pd/GEM and the x/y coordinates defined the panning effects. On this way we could mix both audio in certain times, creating a dialogue between my sound, Renato's sound and Gilson's. Unfortunatelly I lost my laptop and all the codes within after the presentation, but I used a screen similar to Renato's recorded screencasts, using ChucK as a live sampler, similar to Thor's ixilang approach. A snippet of the code was saved here: https://gist.github.com/1379142 I think Gilson can send you more details about his Pd patch and some videos about the human body interface tracked by colors. All the best. 2011/12/2 Renato Fabbri

Em 1 de dezembro de 2011 16:30, Kassen escreveu: ...

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I like how you make a glorious mess instead of the stark minimalism of the other livecoding I've seen. I'm not sure how this would scale, but the difference is exciting.

Thanks! I like that also. The idea is to use the desktop to play and make it more appealing. That bouncing white ball is 'processing'. The cow is 'cowsay'.

Some years ago i did what i now call LDP (Linux Desktop Playing) with jack-rack, ardour, audacity, PD, chuck, python and even audacious. That was a really big mess, specially with ABT: http://trac.assembla.com/audioexperiments/browser/ABeatDetector

Maybe what we are doing is live coding with heritances from LDP.

Anyway, these are the 5 small videos at Vimeo, so anyone can take a look:

- live coding presentation, part 1 a basic principles of the live coding presentation we did on 20/11/2011 for about 3,5 thousand people on Festival CONTATO, São Carlos, Brazil. http://vimeo.com/33012735

- live coding presentation part1 b: REM and cows about Rapid Eyes Movement (REM) and use of cows in the live coding presentation we did on 20/11/2011 for about 3,5 thousand people on Festival CONTATO, São Carlos, Brazil. http://vimeo.com/33018740

- live coding presentation part2 improvisation improvisation part of the live coding presentation we did on 20/11/2011 for about 3,5 thousand people on Festival CONTATO, São Carlos, Brazil. http://vimeo.com/33019291

- presentation part3 soundscapes The part where we used soundscapes in the live coding presentation we did on 20/11/2011 for about 3,5 thousand people on Festival CONTATO, São Carlos, Brazil. http://vimeo.com/33025717

- presentation part4 improvisation2 ending endind of the live coding presentation we did on 20/11/2011 for about 3,5 thousand people on Festival CONTATO, São Carlos, Brazil. http://vimeo.com/33025913

cheers, rfabbri

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Em 2 de dezembro de 2011 14:10, Kassen escreveu:

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Some years ago i did what i now call LDP (Linux Desktop Playing) with jack-rack, ardour, audacity, PD, chuck, python and even audacious. That was a really big mess,

You might want to look into wmctrl. that's a (linux) program that can interact with your window manager. Normally you'd use it to add functionality you are missing, but it could be used for a lot more. It's commandline-based so it could be remotely controlled, for example from ChucK or python. That way you wouldn't need to manually move your cow but the cow (ok, the cow's window) could hop around to the music according to some rules you could write on stage.

ahhahahahah!!!!!

Please note that I can't take responsiblity from lost income, audience, computers or sanity that might result from following my sugestions. :-p

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