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konstantinos vasilakos

19 Oct 2011 19 Oct '11

10:01 a.m.

Hello Guys, I new to the list and to Chuck as well, I am starting to use this language and see what happens, in creative level, therefore as I am working nowadays to a project using granular synthesis and the wii as a controller I would like to know with which objects or whatever you call that, should I mess around, thank you in advance. Konstantinos Vasilakos

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Jordan Orelli

19 Oct 19 Oct

10:07 a.m.

what operating system are you using? I use this to get Wii input into ChucK on OS X http://www.osculator.net/ On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:01 AM, konstantinos vasilakos wrote:

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Hello Guys, I new to the list and to Chuck as well, I am starting to use this language and see what happens, in creative level, therefore as I am working nowadays to a project using granular synthesis and the wii as a controller I would like to know with which objects or whatever you call that, should I mess around, thank you in advance.

Konstantinos Vasilakos

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konstantinos vasilakos

10:09 a.m.

Yeah Sorry for not mentioning that: Mac OSX, I am using that Osculator as well for converting in midi, is that what you mean? Konstantinos Vasilakos On 19 Oct 2011, at 15:07, Jordan Orelli wrote:

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what operating system are you using? I use this to get Wii input into ChucK on OS X http://www.osculator.net/

On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:01 AM, konstantinos vasilakos wrote:

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Hello Guys, I new to the list and to Chuck as well, I am starting to use this language and see what happens, in creative level, therefore as I am working nowadays to a project using granular synthesis and the wii as a controller I would like to know with which objects or whatever you call that, should I mess around, thank you in advance.

Konstantinos Vasilakos

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konstantinos vasilakos

1:26 p.m.

Using the example for OSC receiving I get some crashes, I am using version the miniAudicle (I could start the bin version for some reason) 0.2.0 (gidora), in the example file of OSCrcv. says to launch it with OSCsnd. is this maybe the reason for crashes as it happens as soon I run the last one, for the OSC routing I am using Osculator. Thank you Best Konstantinos Vasilakos On 19 Oct 2011, at 15:07, Jordan Orelli wrote:

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what operating system are you using? I use this to get Wii input into ChucK on OS X http://www.osculator.net/

On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:01 AM, konstantinos vasilakos wrote:

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Hello Guys, I new to the list and to Chuck as well, I am starting to use this language and see what happens, in creative level, therefore as I am working nowadays to a project using granular synthesis and the wii as a controller I would like to know with which objects or whatever you call that, should I mess around, thank you in advance.

Konstantinos Vasilakos

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Kassen

1:48 p.m.

On 19 October 2011 19:26, konstantinos vasilakos < konstantinos.vasilakos@gmail.com> wrote:

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Using the example for OSC receiving I get some crashes, I am using version the miniAudicle (I could start the bin version for some reason) 0.2.0 (gidora), in the example file of OSCrcv. says to launch it with OSCsnd. is this maybe the reason for crashes as it happens as soon I run the last one, for the OSC routing I am using Osculator.

I can't help you with your other issues as I don't have a OSX install here, but what you call the "bin version" (if I understand you right) needs to be run in the terminal. One of the nice things about terminal programs is that if they do crash you get a message telling you something about what went wrong. You may want to try that. Yours, Kas.

konstantinos vasilakos

2:35 p.m.

Hello guys, thanks for the response(even my messed up e-mail i can see now, propably it was because I was in the middle of crashing the chuck and going to supermarket to buy dinner ), about chuck running in the terminal, I could't find out actually how to run it, so I am using the miniAudicle, although I would like to make it working through the terminal! Best Konstantinos Vasilakos On 19 Oct 2011, at 18:48, Kassen wrote:

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On 19 October 2011 19:26, konstantinos vasilakos wrote: Using the example for OSC receiving I get some crashes, I am using version the miniAudicle (I could start the bin version for some reason) 0.2.0 (gidora), in the example file of OSCrcv. says to launch it with OSCsnd. is this maybe the reason for crashes as it happens as soon I run the last one, for the OSC routing I am using Osculator.

I can't help you with your other issues as I don't have a OSX install here, but what you call the "bin version" (if I understand you right) needs to be run in the terminal. One of the nice things about terminal programs is that if they do crash you get a message telling you something about what went wrong. You may want to try that.

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Kassen

4:35 p.m.

2011/10/19 konstantinos vasilakos

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Hello guys, thanks for the response(even my messed up e-mail i can see now, propably it was because I was in the middle of crashing the chuck and going to supermarket to buy dinner ),

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about chuck running in the terminal, I could't find out actually how to run it, so I am using the miniAudicle, although I would like to make it working through the terminal!

There is a brief tutorial here; http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/doc/build/ It comes down to copying the chuck executable to a location that is in your terminal's "path", which means that you will be able to use it like any other command there. It's a bit hard to know how to explain this to you when I don't know how familiar you are with the terminal. Did you use it before? If not it might make sense to look up a short tutorial about the OSX terminal and then go read that link. With a brief tutorial on topics like navigating directories and copying files you should be just fine, knowing a bit about the terminal will be helpful to you in everyday life anyway, so that's not lost time. Yours, Kas.

Spencer Salazar

1:49 p.m.

Hi Konstantinos, You might try to use the latest beta of miniAudicle: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~spencer/chuck/miniAudicle-0.2.1-beta-1.tgz This build has a fix for a bug that would cause chuck and miniAudicle to crash when receiving OSC messages in some cases. spencer On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:26 AM, konstantinos vasilakos wrote:

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Using the example for OSC receiving I get some crashes, I am using version the miniAudicle (I could start the bin version for some reason) 0.2.0 (gidora), in the example file of OSCrcv. says to launch it with OSCsnd. is this maybe the reason for crashes as it happens as soon I run the last one, for the OSC routing I am using Osculator. Thank you Best

Konstantinos Vasilakos

On 19 Oct 2011, at 15:07, Jordan Orelli wrote:

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what operating system are you using? I use this to get Wii input into ChucK on OS X http://www.osculator.net/

On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:01 AM, konstantinos vasilakos wrote:

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Hello Guys, I new to the list and to Chuck as well, I am starting to use this language and see what happens, in creative level, therefore as I am working nowadays to a project using granular synthesis and the wii as a controller I would like to know with which objects or whatever you call that, should I mess around, thank you in advance.

Konstantinos Vasilakos

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Kassen

1:53 p.m.

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You might try to use the latest beta of miniAudicle: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~spencer/chuck/miniAudicle-0.2.1-beta-1.tgz

Spencer, will your beta compile and run on Linux? If so would you like me to test it and report on issues? Yours, Kas.

Vilson Vieira

3:24 p.m.

2011/10/19 Kassen

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You might try to use the latest beta of miniAudicle: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~spencer/chuck/miniAudicle-0.2.1-beta-1.tgz

Spencer, will your beta compile and run on Linux? If so would you like me to test it and report on issues?

Spencer, is there any repository to miniAudicle to help you on its development? How miniAudicle source is related with Audicle and ChucK? Cheers. -- Vilson Vieira vilson@void.cc ((( http://automata.cc ))) ((( http://musa.cc )))

Kassen

4:23 p.m.

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Spencer, is there any repository to miniAudicle to help you on its development? How miniAudicle source is related with Audicle and ChucK?

I'd also be willing to help. Last night I noticed another few usability issues on Linux. I think the link between the text buffers and the shreds they represent is getting a bit messed up. I'd like to try to help fix things like that, if that would be welcome. BTW; the mini simply contains a ChucK VM, Vilson. That code is quite modular, you can swap out the directory of ChucK code, recompile and expect it to work. For Audicle that should probably be the case, but there it doesn't work, probably due to updates to ChucK since Audicle was made. That's a bit sad as Audicle was a cool idea. Yours, Kas.

Spencer Salazar

5:44 p.m.

Kassen/Vilson, This beta is indeed compilable on Linux, however for mini you will need some additional dependencies. The main reason for putting together a formal "beta" this release cycle was to address some critical bugs in Mac OS X Lion. The source for chuck is available like so: svn checkout https://chuck-dev.stanford.edu/svn/chuck/trunk/ chuck and miniAudicle: svn checkout http://miniaudicle.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ miniaudicle These will give you read-only copies of the source. We are happy to have people testing and submitting patches (ideally relatively simple ones, at least), so have at it! spencer 2011/10/19 Kassen :

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Spencer, is there any repository to miniAudicle to help you on its development? How miniAudicle source is related with Audicle and ChucK?

I'd also be willing to help. Last night I noticed another few usability issues on Linux. I think the link between the text buffers and the shreds they represent is getting a bit messed up. I'd like to try to help fix things like that, if that would be welcome.

BTW; the mini simply contains a ChucK VM, Vilson. That code is quite modular, you can swap out the directory of ChucK code, recompile and expect it to work. For Audicle that should probably be the case, but there it doesn't work, probably due to updates to ChucK since Audicle was made. That's a bit sad as Audicle was a cool idea.

Yours, Kas.

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Kassen

6:08 p.m.

On 19 October 2011 23:44, Spencer Salazar wrote:

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Kassen/Vilson,

This beta is indeed compilable on Linux, however for mini you will need some additional dependencies.

Great, that I can deal with.

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The main reason for putting together a formal "beta" this release cycle was to address some critical bugs in Mac OS X Lion.

Of course. That makes total sense, especially looking at the environment ChucK is used in educationally. However I'd say that the current state on Linux has some very serious usability issues. Mind you; they look to me as though they are not "big" bugs, just ones that make usage difficult compared to -say- nano and a pair of terminals. I love my nano but I think we can do better than that.

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These will give you read-only copies of the source. We are happy to have people testing and submitting patches (ideally relatively simple ones, at least), so have at it!

That's the spirit! Patches go to the -dev list, I'll asume. Let me say how happy I am that we're all getting back in a bit more developmental mode. Yours, Kas.

Kassen

10:31 a.m.

On 19 October 2011 16:01, konstantinos vasilakos < konstantinos.vasilakos@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hello Guys, I new to the list and to Chuck as well, I am starting to use this language and see what happens, in creative level, therefore as I am working nowadays to a project using granular synthesis and the wii as a controller I would like to know with which objects or whatever you call that, should I mess around, thank you in advance.

Hi konstantino, Welcome on board. If you mean the "building blocks" of sound; we call those "UGens", for Unit Generators, after the CSound convention. Those are also "objects" too, that's how it goes in object oriented programming :¬). Anyway the one that you probably want for granulation is called LiSa (for LIve SAmpling). If you open the examples directory that came with your download and look in the "special" sub-foldr there you will see a series of files dedicated to documenting and explaining LiSa. One possible strategy for you would be to read and run those, pick one that's closest to what you want and edit that. You could then copy-paste one of the examples that deals with input (like MIDI or OSC) in there and try to bolt the two together. That strategy has worked well for learning how it all works for others. Poking at the examples and editing them is IMHO still the best way to learn on your own. If you would get stuck simply ask questions here. Good luck and have fun! Yours, Kas.

Wolfgang Gil

4:47 p.m.

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Hello Guys, I new to the list and to Chuck as well, I am starting to use

Hello Konstantinos, Please take a look at my granul8 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17247286/Granul8.zip Enjoy On Wednesday, October 19, 2011, konstantinos vasilakos < konstantinos.vasilakos@gmail.com> wrote: this language and see what happens, in creative level, therefore as I am working nowadays to a project using granular synthesis and the wii as a controller I would like to know with which objects or whatever you call that, should I mess around, thank you in advance.

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konstantinos vasilakos

20 Oct 20 Oct

7:09 a.m.

Hello there, is there any Granular Ugens for using with the Lisa "sendbuf" ?? Best Konstantinos Vasilakos On 19 Oct 2011, at 21:47, Wolfgang Gil wrote:

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Hello Konstantinos, Please take a look at my granul8 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17247286/Granul8.zip Enjoy

On Wednesday, October 19, 2011, konstantinos vasilakos wrote:

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Hello Guys, I new to the list and to Chuck as well, I am starting to use this language and see what happens, in creative level, therefore as I am working nowadays to a project using granular synthesis and the wii as a controller I would like to know with which objects or whatever you call that, should I mess around, thank you in advance.

Konstantinos Vasilakos

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Kassen

9:01 a.m.

Hey there! 2011/10/20 konstantinos vasilakos

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Hello there, is there any Granular Ugens for using with the Lisa "sendbuf" ??

I'm sorry, but I don't understand the question. LiSa is quite capable of granualting sounds on her own, which I think is explained mostly in the examples I pointed you to.

Can you explain what you are trying to do, how, and where the problems start? Thanks, Kas.

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