Hi everybody. Thanks Ge, Perry and the rest of you for a wicked workshop at NIME last month. I've been on my way to do a Chuck session, but have decided to wait for the 1.2 release. Any news on when....? I'm pretty eager now as I was thinking of playing with chuck in my summer holiday in a cottage up in some Icelandic mountains. Cheers Thor
Hi Thor and Everyone, We have continued development in full since NIME (for the most part) and are going to do so until the release and beyond. We are working on completing the core feature set before releasing 1.2. We have everything except about 4 showstopper feature/bugs that we feel needs to be in the release. (They include finishing rudimentary garbage collection, stereo (very close), a pre-scanner for the type system, and static data initialization). The main additions (arrays, objects, events, and even basic OSC) are completed and even tested. However, I think it's hard to set a release date, since our earlier attempts obviously weren't met. So we will keep going as fast as we can until the last features/bugs are dealt with. We are close.
I'm pretty eager now as I was thinking of playing with chuck in my summer holiday in a cottage up in some Icelandic mountains.
laptop... $2000 headphones... $100 chuck... $0 summer cottage in Icelandic mountains... priceless. Best, Ge! On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:45 AM, thor wrote:
Hi everybody.
Thanks Ge, Perry and the rest of you for a wicked workshop at NIME last month.
I've been on my way to do a Chuck session, but have decided to wait for the 1.2 release. Any news on when....?
I'm pretty eager now as I was thinking of playing with chuck in my summer holiday in a cottage up in some Icelandic mountains.
Cheers Thor
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On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 13:51 -0400, Ge Wang wrote:
[...] However, I think it's hard to set a release date, since our earlier attempts obviously weren't met. So we will keep going as fast as we can until the last features/bugs are dealt with. We are close. ...
Maybe you should just remove the announcement for may/2005 on the site, that's confusing. Still, "It's ready when it's done" - I like the Debian way :) Only it would be great to have CVS read access for the adventurous who wanna try out the bleeding edge - i just saw on sourceforge the CVS is empty. BTW, do you plan to create a Debian package for chuck? I'd be interested in helping with that. Actually, I didn't use chuck for a while but have some deb's lying around somewhere for personal use, which I'd just need to polish up a bit, so others can use it, too, and I would even like to try to get them into the Debian distribution. I am already somewhat familiar with the Debian development model and could apply as a maintainer for chuck in Debian. Henning
From: Henning Sprang
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 13:51 -0400, Ge Wang wrote:
[...] However, I think it's hard to set a release date, since our earlier attempts obviously weren't met. So we will keep going as fast as we can until the last features/bugs are dealt with. We are close. ...
Maybe you should just remove the announcement for may/2005 on the site, that's confusing. Still, "It's ready when it's done" - I like the Debian way :) Only it would be great to have CVS read access for the adventurous who wanna try out the bleeding edge - i just saw on sourceforge the CVS is empty.
It is possible to check out the latest and greatest, even I manage to do that!
BTW, do you plan to create a Debian package for chuck? I'd be interested in helping with that. Actually, I didn't use chuck for a while but have some deb's lying around somewhere for personal use, which I'd just need to polish up a bit, so others can use it, too, and I would even like to try to get them into the Debian distribution. I am already somewhat familiar with the Debian development model and could apply as a maintainer for chuck in Debian.
Yeah, I've also done a Debian package. Actually, I made a man-page for chuck to make the packet complete. ;O) By the time for chuck 1.2 it surely would need an update (we do hope!), but it was useful as it was. A good chuck package would indeed be usefull, docs and all. Maybe we should discuss it a little more in detail. I'm not a Debian maintainer but could maybe be convinced to make a joint effort on this one. Cheers, Magnus
Hi Magnus, On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 20:46 +0200, Magnus Danielson wrote:
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It is possible to check out the latest and greatest, even I manage to do that!
Hmm, at which CVS Server are you looking? on the princeton chuck website I don't find a link to CVS, and the CVS at the Sourceforge project i get via google search is pretty much completely empty apart from the CVSROOT dir: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/chuck/ if the CVS is elsewhere, it would nice if the website pointed to it in the download section.
Yeah, I've also done a Debian package. Actually, I made a man-page for chuck to make the packet complete. ;O) By the time for chuck 1.2 it surely would need an update (we do hope!), but it was useful as it was.
A good chuck package would indeed be usefull, docs and all. Maybe we should discuss it a little more in detail. I'm not a Debian maintainer but could maybe be convinced to make a joint effort on this one.
I am not, too, but I plan to. I already help with the development of FAI - the Fully Automatic Installation tool for Debian. I'm interested in getting deeper into that, and have no problem to read anything that's needed to get there (Mainly New Maintainer Guide, Policy) and to do the necessary communication with the Debian people. In combination with your manpage it wont be a lot of hassle for anybody. I would also go for an Ubuntu package, as I wanna become Ubuntu MOTU, too, and already volunteered to get intio the ubuntu professional audio group, but that shouldn't be a problem anyway if a Debian package already exists. Hmm, only Ubuntu uses a different standard sound server - better, Debian has nothing like _the_ standard sound server while Ubuntu tries to provide one default solution for such things (and the ubuntu-dektop packages depends on this), and they go for some esd(-compatible) solution AFAIK. Is chuck esd-compatible? I only remember alsa and jack output. BTW, I actually made two chuck packages - one with the alsa binary and one with the jack binary, but we'd manage both in one source package. Would be cool if we could manage the code needed for the *.deb directly in the chuck CVS. Henning
sorry for that crippled looking mail, but I don't know where it comes from, in other lists my mails look perfect generally. I will try to turn off message signing when mailing here and see if that helps. If so, Id request to ask the list admin to see why gpg signing of messages isn't supported. Henning
Maybe you should just remove the announcement for may/2005 on the site,
Good idea. Done. For CVS access to the "bleeding edge" (or maybe just "bleeding"): make sure CVS_RSH=ssh in environment variables cvs -d :ext:anon-chuck@cvs.cs.princeton.edu:/cvs checkout chuck_dev when prompted for password, just hit enter. the source is not in src, but in v2 for now, along with tests. this comes with even less warranty than usual. Thanks. chaos. There have been talk of a Debian package for chuck, but I am not sure where that's at. We are all for it, though. If anyone wants to continue/restart/look into progress of debian packaging, start a thread to chuck-dev. Best, Ge!
I can submit a request to Gentoo for packaging as well. Gentoo packaging is more or less trivial, since a Gentoo "package" is essentially a bash script for building and installing from source. :) Ge Wang wrote:
Maybe you should just remove the announcement for may/2005 on the site,
Good idea. Done.
For CVS access to the "bleeding edge" (or maybe just "bleeding"): make sure CVS_RSH=ssh in environment variables
cvs -d :ext:anon-chuck@cvs.cs.princeton.edu:/cvs checkout chuck_dev
when prompted for password, just hit enter. the source is not in src, but in v2 for now, along with tests. this comes with even less warranty than usual. Thanks. chaos.
There have been talk of a Debian package for chuck, but I am not sure where that's at. We are all for it, though. If anyone wants to continue/restart/look into progress of debian packaging, start a thread to chuck-dev.
Best, Ge!
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On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 07:25 -0700, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
I can submit a request to Gentoo for packaging as well. Gentoo packaging is more or less trivial, since a Gentoo "package" is essentially a bash script for building and installing from source. :)
hmm, that kind of script is already here, actually, i made a crux linux port (similar to gentoo), and then i have a script that makes *.debs from crux ports.... The scripts to generate the crux port can be found in that archive, maybe this helps to make a gentoo port (erm, or whatecer it is called), http://www.sprang.de/download/henning_crux_ports-2005-02-24.tar.gz the matching script to make the (as dirty as dirty gets) Debian package from that is in that archive: http://www.sprang.de/download/port2deb-2005-02-24.tar.gz It's all quite hacky, but maybe is saves somebody some minimal work... Henning
Ge Wang schreef:
There have been talk of a Debian package for chuck, but I am not sure where that's at. We are all for it, though. If anyone wants to continue/restart/look into progress of debian packaging, start a thread to chuck-dev.
a debian package can also already be found here: http://piem.org/debian/ m -- -------------------------------------------- ----------- http://www.mprims.tk --------------------------------------------
On Jun 28, 2005, at 8:32 AM, oliver oli wrote:
what about multi-channel (> 2 channels)?
multi-channel is certainly planned for, but probably won't be in the initial 1.2.0.0 release. However, it should follow soon in a subsequent release. It is a high priority. Best, Ge!
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