[chuck-users] Chugins in general

Mon May 28 18:08:47 EDT 2018

Hey Perry,

Thats weird. Yes, the installer is supposed to take care of everything and
all the usual chugins should be there. What do you see on the console if
you start the VM at log level 5?

Youll probably need a new MAUI chugin for use with command line ChucK, but
MAUI was always built-in to miniAudicle when using ChucK that way.

Spencer

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Perry Cook <prc at cs.princeton.edu> wrote:

> While we’re on Chugins, I recently installed the newest ChucK/Mini and
> found that ChucK can’t seem to find the standard Chugins (including MAUI,
> which I assume has now been unbundled from the ChucK executable?).
> MiniAudicle seems fine tho.
>
> I was using 1.3.5 fine, but 1.4 seems to be set up quite differently for
> Chugins and path.
> The installer should take care of this automagically yes?
>
> This is for Mac 10.10.5 by the way.
>
> Prc
>
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> >   1. Re: chugins will not load/compile using 1.4.0.0 on    windows10
> >      (Spencer Salazar)
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 11:20:42 -0700
> > From: Spencer Salazar <spencer.salazar at gmail.com>
> > To: ChucK Users Mailing List <chuck-users at lists.cs.princeton.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [chuck-users] chugins will not load/compile using 1.4.0.0
> >    on    windows10
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> > Compilation of Chugins on Windows has not been pretty. Right now the
> system
> > is designed so to allow a complete build from command line using some
> > version of the VS compiler and msbuild, but as I recall this entails an
> > elaborate and brittle setup of environment variables and $PATH
> > configuration. Any recommendations/pull requests for getting the system
> to
> > work a little more nicely would be welcome. Updating the build tools
> > version sounds like a good start.
> >
> > When I have a moment I will look into this myself (I don't have a
> permanent
> > Windows set up), but Im also optimistic about Jack's workaround above.
> >
> > Spencer
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Jack Atherton <lja at ccrma.stanford.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ben,
> >>
> >> Sorry to hear you went down that rabbit hole. I believe the intended
> >> action is to retarget the solution to whatever is on your machine for
> >> building the Chugins.
> >>
> >> I've just set up my own Windows machine within the last few days, and
> >> installed miniAudicle this morning. What I am seeing when I start the VM
> >> with log level = info is that miniAudicle is only looking in C:\Program
> >> Files\ChucK\chugins\ for the location of chugins, instead of looking in
> all
> >> the folders of the miniAudicle chugins preferences pane window. This is
> an
> >> old bug that I think we fixed at some point, but maybe the official
> >> installer didn't get updated yet. The installer actually installs the
> >> chugins at C:\Program Files (x86)\ChucK\chugins\ if you choose the
> default
> >> install location, so the temporary fix is to make a new folder
> C:\Program
> >> Files\ChucK\chugins\ and copy all of the chugins over into there.
> >>
> >> If you set the ChucK>Log Level>Info in the menu bar before starting the
> >> VM, you should be able to see a printout of where it is scanning for
> >> chugins and which ones it loads successfully in the console window.
> When I
> >> did this on my new laptop, I was able to get it to load all the provided
> >> chugins, and run a script using one of them without syntax errors.
> >>
> >> Again, sorry for the hassle. Let me know if this works.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Jack
> >>
> >>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 7:26 PM, Ben Sandvik <bpsandvik at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That kind of makes sense because when I have 1.3.5.2 installed there
> is a
> >>> chugins folder created that has a bunch of .CHUG files dated
> 10/21/2015.
> >>> These all work in 1.3.5.2.  However, I cant install or use any of the
> newer
> >>> chugins in 1.3.5.2 on Win10 and when upgrading to 1.4.0.0 none of them
> work.
> >>>
> >>> I have also tried to compile the chugins from the github repo as you
> >>> suggested, so far no luck and it has sent me down quite the rabbit hole
> >>> trying to find the right combination of Visual Studio versions, build
> >>> tools, SDKs, Windows 2010 compilers, etc. etc.  I am now stuck on build
> >>> errors that I just cant figure out.
> >>> The main issue with compiling the chugins in chuck 1.4.0.0 on Windows
> 10
> >>> seems to be the use of the v100 build tools in the makefile for each
> >>> chugin. I think I have installed every v100 related build tool on the
> >>> internet :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> running 'make win32' from mingw64 results in the following errors for
> the
> >>> ABSaturator (the first chugin in the makefile) and stops compiling:
> >>> "Build FAILED.
> >>> "C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSaturator\ABSaturator.vcxproj" (default
> target)
> >>> (1) ->
> >>> (PrepareForBuild target) -> C:\Program Files
> >>> (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\v4.0\Microsoft.CppBuild.targets(297,5):
> >>> warning MSB8003: Could not find WindowsSDKDir variable from the
> registry.
> >>> TargetFrameworkVersion or PlatformToolset may be set to an invalid
> version
> >>> number. [C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSaturator\ABSaturator.vcxproj]
> >>> "C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSaturator\ABSaturator.vcxproj" (default
> target)
> >>> (1) ->
> >>> (ClCompile target) -> C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\v4
> >>> .0\Platforms\Win32\Microsoft.Cpp.Win32.Targets(153,5): error MSB6006:
> >>> "CL.exe" exited with code -1073741515. [C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSatura
> >>> tor\ABSaturator.vcxproj]"
> >>>
> >>> I noticed on the github that a fix on Jan 17 that changed the toolset
> of
> >>> each chugin from v141 to v100, so as an experiment I changed each line
> of
> >>> <PlatformToolset>v100</PlatformToolset> back to
> >>> <PlatformToolset>v141</PlatformToolset> in the ABSaturator makefile.
> >>> Running make win32 resulted in a pretty verbose log and a statement in
> >>> mingw64 of a successful build for ABSaturator!!
> >>>
> >>> Next, running sudo make install resulted in the following:
> >>> $ make install
> >>> CHUCK_STRICT=1 make -C ABSaturator/ install
> >>> make[1]: Entering directory 'C:/Users/Ben/chugins/ABSaturator'
> >>> gcc -O3 -Werror -c -o ABSaturator.o ABSaturator.cpp
> >>> process_begin: CreateProcess(NULL, gcc -O3 -Werror -c -o ABSaturator.o
> >>> ABSaturator.cpp, ...) failed.
> >>> make (e=2): The system cannot find the file specified.
> >>>
> >>> So I moved the contents of ABSaturator/Release to ABSaturator/ and
> >>> changed the file name of ABSaturator.obj to ABSaturator.o and ran make
> >>> install again.  This time, no log of any ABSaturator activity.  I tried
> >>> using the chugin again in miniAudicle and got the same 'undefined type'
> >>> error.
> >>>
> >>> So ... are there any Windows 10 users or devs that have succesfully
> >>> installed and used the chugins for 1.4.0.0?  Any guidance would be
> >>> appreciated. Ihave basically used all my free time for a week on
> this.  I
> >>> really want to use the ArrayOutOfBounds line number features and to
> try out
> >>> the new NHHall reverb :)
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Ben
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:19 AM, Jack Atherton <lja at ccrma.stanford.edu
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am pretty sure that chugins that worked with 1.3.X have an internal
> >>>> version number that is incompatible with 1.4.0.0 -- the API for
> chugins
> >>>> changed. You could try recompiling the chugins from the chugin repo
> and
> >>>> seeing if that works. I am not sure if the Windows installer also
> installs
> >>>> chugins like the Mac installer does (at least, I'm pretty sure the Mac
> >>>> installer does).
> >>>>
> >>>> That sounds nasty about the log level crash. I wonder if it is
> something
> >>>> that happens when attempting to load incompatible chugins... we should
> >>>> probably fix it if that's what's going on!
> >>>>
> >>>> -Jack
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Ben Sandvik <bpsandvik at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> List,
> >>>>> I have been trying to update to chuck 1.4.0.0 for a few days, but I
> >>>>> can't get chugins to compile or load on Windows 10 64-bit using
> >>>>> miniAudicle.  I'm getting the "undefined type '...'  in declaration"
> error
> >>>>> message for every chugin when adding to the VM, including ones that
> had
> >>>>> been working correctly with 1.3.5.2.  Other .ck files that don't use
> >>>>> chugins seem to be working fine.  Here is what I have tried
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Downloaded the 1.4 executable and went through the standard
> >>>>> installation
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have copied the files from the chugins GitHub zip file to:
> >>>>> C:\WINDOWS\system32/ChucK
> >>>>> C:\ProgramFiles\ChucK\chugins
> >>>>> C:\ProgramFiles(x86)\ChucK\chugins
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and made sure the directory is listed under the chugins preferences
> in
> >>>>> miniAudicle.  Not sure which is best directory, just trying
> everything.
> >>>>> I have also tried just putting the github files for a specific chugin
> >>>>> in the same folder with an example .ck files.  Still the same error
> message.
> >>>>> If I uninstall 1.4 and re-install 1.3.5.2 the older chugins are
> working
> >>>>> fine, but newer ones like Wavetable and ExpEnv are not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any ideas?  Am I missing some obvious step during installation?  Is
> >>>>> there a Windows10-specific issue?
> >>>>> Also, not sure if this is related, but changing the Log Level to
> >>>>> anything other than System causes miniAudicle to crash when starting
> the vm.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks
> >>>>> Ben
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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