I can report that it segfaults here too. Chuck 1.2.1.3 (Linux Alsa) running on Ubuntu 10.04 2011/1/24 Alan Yoder :

There's something in the examples folder of chuck, I was wandering through there, running the various examples, seeing what they would do, and what happened was on the file called unclap.ck, running that file i got a dialog pop up that said something about chuck.exe being bad and that an error report had been created and would be sent to microsoft. I couldn't gather the information from that report because I don't know how, though this seems to be a very bad thing. this was in the windows version of chuck. i'm not sure if the particular .ck file in question was only designed for the unixy versions, that would be sad.

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Howdy, Thanks for all of the extensive crash reporting! This looks like a known issue, the empty for loop bug -- at some point for loops with a non-existent conditional started crashing the compiler. A change was made in the compiler to explicitly reject empty conditionals in for loops, avoiding the crash, but Im not sure how this didn't make it into the latest release as its an old change. You can see the previous discussion on this here: https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/pipermail/chuck-dev/2009-October/000392.html So I can confirm that this is fixed in SVN and will undoubtedly make it into the next release. But if you're looking for immediate satisfaction, you can change line 31 of unclap.ck: for( ; ; shifts++ ) to this: for( ; true; shifts++ ) and/or use the potentially less-stable SVN version of ChucK. Let me know if I've overlooked anything here. Thanks, spencer On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:04 PM, mike clemow wrote:

Confirmed here - Mac OS X 10.6.6  - 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo 2Gb RAM

Command Line - The Infamous "bus error"

And it also crashed miniAudicle 0.2.0 thusly:

Process:         miniAudicle [2986] Path: /Volumes/CLEMBIE/Applications/miniAudicle-0.2.0/miniAudicle.app/Contents/MacOS/miniAudicle Identifier:      org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle Version:         0.2.0 (0.2.0) Code Type:       X86 (Native) Parent Process:  launchd [109]

Date/Time:       2011-01-24 18:58:29.033 -0500 OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.6.6 (10J567) Report Version:  6

Interval Since Last Report:          620442 sec Crashes Since Last Report:           8 Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  100 sec Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1 Anonymous UUID:                      D2B1B141-7554-4E57-AF07-802DA4302383

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS) Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000008 Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x00079f3f type_engine_check_for(Chuck_Env*, a_Stmt_For_*) + 95 1   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x00079124 type_engine_check_stmt(Chuck_Env*, a_Stmt_*) + 612 2   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x0007ac92 type_engine_check_func_def(Chuck_Env*, a_Func_Def_*) + 2258 3   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x0007ce88 type_engine_check_context(Chuck_Env*, Chuck_Context*, te_HowMuch) + 344 4   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x00090625 Chuck_Compiler::do_normal(std::string const&, __sFILE*, char const*) + 965 5   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x000909a9 Chuck_Compiler::go(std::string const&, __sFILE*, char const*) + 57 6   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x0000b0eb miniAudicle::run_code(std::string&, std::string&, std::vectorstd::string >&, unsigned long, unsigned long&, std::string&) + 91 7   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x000156b8 -[miniAudicleDocument add:] + 520 8   com.apple.AppKit                    0x97d2ac46 -[NSApplication sendAction:to:from:] + 112 9   com.apple.AppKit                    0x97d2aaf9 -[NSMenuItem _corePerformAction] + 435 10  com.apple.AppKit                    0x97d2a7eb -[NSCarbonMenuImpl performActionWithHighlightingForItemAtIndex:] + 174 11  com.apple.AppKit                    0x97e26403 -[NSMenu _performActionWithHighlightingForItemAtIndex:] + 49 12  com.apple.AppKit                    0x97e25baf -[NSMenu performKeyEquivalent:] + 314 13  com.apple.AppKit                    0x97e24353 -[NSApplication _handleKeyEquivalent:] + 581 14  com.apple.AppKit                    0x97d1a1f2 -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 4858 15  com.apple.AppKit                    0x97cae2a7 -[NSApplication run] + 917 16  com.apple.AppKit                    0x97ca62d9 NSApplicationMain + 574 17  org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x00004b62 _start + 216 18  org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x00004a89 start + 41

Thread 1:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager 0   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9416e982 kevent + 10 1   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9416f09c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215 2   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9416e559 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163 3   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9416e2fe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240 4   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9416dd81 _pthread_wqthread + 390 5   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9416dbc6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 2: 0   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x94148426 read + 10 1   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x94172efd _sread + 41 2   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x94172d7e __srefill + 48 3   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x94172c5a fgets + 98 4   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x00016827 miniAudicle_Shell_UI::next_command(std::string const&, std::string&) + 87 5   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x000baa43 Chuck_Shell::run() + 195 6   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x000baca3 shell_cb(void*) + 51 7   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9417585d _pthread_start + 345 8   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941756e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 3: 0   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941480fa mach_msg_trap + 10 1   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x94148867 mach_msg + 68 2   com.apple.CoreFoundation            0x974ca37f __CFRunLoopRun + 2079 3   com.apple.CoreFoundation            0x974c9464 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452 4   com.apple.CoreFoundation            0x974cf3a4 CFRunLoopRun + 84 5   com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer             0x1339f0fb AVS::DestroyAVCDeviceController(AVS::AVCDeviceController*) + 297 6   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9417585d _pthread_start + 345 7   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941756e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:  com.apple.CFSocket.private 0   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941670c6 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10 1   com.apple.CoreFoundation            0x97509c83 __CFSocketManager + 1091 2   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9417585d _pthread_start + 345 3   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941756e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 5: 0   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9416da12 __workq_kernreturn + 10 1   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9416dfa8 _pthread_wqthread + 941 2   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9416dbc6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 6: 0   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9414820e mach_wait_until + 10 1   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941cf819 nanosleep + 345 2   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941cf6ba usleep + 61 3   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x00142f56 kb_loop(void*) + 102 4   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9417585d _pthread_start + 345 5   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941756e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 7: 0   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9414820e mach_wait_until + 10 1   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941cf819 nanosleep + 345 2   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941cf6ba usleep + 61 3   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x000468e2 Chuck_VM::run() + 370 4   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x00008926 vm_cb(void*) + 70 5   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9417585d _pthread_start + 345 6   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941756e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 8: 0   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9414815a semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x94175ce5 _pthread_cond_wait + 1066 2   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941a4ac8 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio           0x962ee3c7 CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 219 4   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio           0x962f13f9 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 289 5   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio           0x962eecf6 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 1892 6   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio           0x962ee58d HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17 7   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio           0x962ee4a4 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 140 8   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9417585d _pthread_start + 345 9   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941756e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 9: 0   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9414820e mach_wait_until + 10 1   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941cf819 nanosleep + 345 2   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941cf6ba usleep + 61 3   org.miniAudicle.miniAudicle         0x000be9a1 watch_dog(void*) + 321 4   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x9417585d _pthread_start + 345 5   libSystem.B.dylib                   0x941756e2 thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):  eax: 0x00000000  ebx: 0x00079ef9  ecx: 0x18606700  edx: 0x1864e368  edi: 0x18606700  esi: 0x1864e360  ebp: 0xbffff008  esp: 0xbfffefb0   ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010202  eip: 0x00079f3f   cs: 0x00000017   ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037  cr2: 0x00000008

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On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Lucas Zawacki wrote:

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I can report that it segfaults here too. Chuck 1.2.1.3 (Linux Alsa) running on Ubuntu 10.04

2011/1/24 Alan Yoder :

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There's something in the examples folder of chuck, I was wandering through there, running the various examples, seeing what they would do, and what happened was on the file called unclap.ck, running that file i got a dialog pop up that said something about chuck.exe being bad and that an error report had been created and would be sent to microsoft. I couldn't gather the information from that report because I don't know how, though this seems to be a very bad thing. this was in the windows version of chuck. i'm not sure if the particular .ck file in question was only designed for the unixy versions, that would be sad.

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Hi , i was wondering how can i have access to fft matrices in chuck? other question , Do any body have made chaos functions in chuck? or maybe there are examples of this? If you are interested in chaos for sound generation you should check the "non stardard" approach but this works in the time domain, basically you define waveform segments , basically you map the values comming from the chaos function into breakpoints defined as time values and amplitude in the sample level, look for it in google, i think there a lot of potencial with this approach R. 2011/1/24 Wolfgang Gil :

Thank you Joe

On Jan 24, 2011, at 1:57 AM, Joe McMahon wrote:

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I seem to recall at least a couple articles in the Computer Music Journal (back when you could still find it on the newstands - mid '90's? oops, 1988, see link below) about this. You might want to check with a local academic library to see if you could track them down.

https://blekko.com/ws/computer+music+journal+fractals points at a LOT of possibles. In particular http://www.faqs.org/faqs/fractal-faq/section-14.html should be of interest. _______________________________________________ chuck-users mailing list chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users

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Thanks for this On Jan 28, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Drew Jaworski wrote:

I did a little bit of work last year with chaotic functions and numerical solutions in real-time. Maybe this is in the direciton you were looking, but I'm sure other have done much more complete analysis and demonstrations. *shrug*

http://www.eigenmusic.net/?p=12

-Drew

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:01 PM, ronni montoya wrote:

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Hi , i was wondering how can i have access to fft matrices in chuck?

other question , Do any body have made chaos functions in chuck? or maybe there are examples of this?

If you are interested in chaos for sound generation you should check the "non stardard" approach but this works in the time domain, basically you define waveform segments , basically you map the values comming from the chaos function into breakpoints defined as time values and amplitude in the sample level, look for it in google, i think there a lot of potencial with this approach

R.

2011/1/24 Wolfgang Gil :

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Thank you Joe

On Jan 24, 2011, at 1:57 AM, Joe McMahon wrote:

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I seem to recall at least a couple articles in the Computer Music Journal (back when you could still find it on the newstands - mid '90's? oops, 1988, see link below) about this. You might want to check with a local academic library to see if you could track them down.

https://blekko.com/ws/computer+music+journal+fractals points at a LOT of possibles. In particular http://www.faqs.org/faqs/fractal-faq/section-14.html should be of interest. _______________________________________________ chuck-users mailing list chuck-users@lists.cs.princeton.edu https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users

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