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Oscin addAddress query
by Scott Hewitt 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hi, I was moving some code away from using OscRecv and OscSend to make use of OscIn/OscOut and OscMsg. I found the versions file (under 1.3.4.0) useful in doing this. The example r.ck within the OSC examples was also useful. I did find something that I was unclear about though within it. What is the purpose of the if within line 15? 9: OscIn oin; 14: // create an address in the receiver 15: oin.addAddress( "/foo/notes, if" ); https://github.com/ccrma/chuck/blob/master/examples/osc/r.ck All the best Scott

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FLOSS manual on floss website
by mario buoninfante 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

hi everybody, ChucK FLOSS manual has been brought back on https://flossmanuals.net/ <https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fflossmanuals.net%2F&h=AT11TN87…> PDF and Epub are available as well cheers, Mario

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Chugin/Faust issue
by mario buoninfante 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

Hi, I'm having issue with a chugin generated with faust2ck. I'm on a 64bit Linux machine (Ubuntu Studio 16.04) and I created a simple /sample and hold/ component in Faust (SampleAndHold.dsp that contains /declare name "SampleAndHold"//;/) and then turned it into a chugin using faust2ck. everything seems fine, my /SampleAndHold.chug/ is generated, but unfortunately I cannot use it in ChucK (console: /undefined type 'SampleAndHold'.../) . I copied it into the chugin folder and also tried launching ChucK with -gSampleAndHold . does anyone have any experience with faust2ck? am I missing something? cheers, Mario

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FLOSS manual on floss website
by mario buoninfante 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

Hi, in the next days the ChucK manual we'll be brought back to http://flossmanuals.net (there's always been a version there, in the meanwhile on the new platform we were updating a copy of it). as I reported here when I started working on it, at that time I've been asked to test a new platform for editing (https://omnibook.pro). now it looks like it's time to bring it back to the main site ;) FYI everyone can follow the discussion here: http://lists.flossmanuals.net/pipermail/discuss-flossmanuals.net/ I'll keep you posted. cheers, Mario

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Re: [chuck-users] Chugin/Faust issue
by mario.buoninfante 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

Hi Spencer, Thanks, that'd be great :) Cheers, Mario Sent from my Wiko ROBBYOn Jun 19, 2018 21:41, Spencer Salazar <spencer.salazar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Yep, the faust2ck needs to have its chuck submodule updated to use the latest chuck headers, although it seems a bit messier than that since the structure of the headers changed. I will look in to it! > > Spencer > > > -- > > Spencer Salazar, PhD > spencer(a)spencersalazar.com | 831.277.4654 > https://spencersalazar.com > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Mario Buoninfante <mario.buoninfante(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Casper, >> >> that's a really good point, in fact I had to do the same with my chugins after installed ChucK 1.4.0.0 >> I'll double check. >> >> cheers, >> Mario >> >> On 18 June 2018 at 10:49, Casper Schipper <casper.schipper(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> correction: I meant 1.3.5.2, 1.3.6.0 is actually pretty much identical to 1.4.0.0 according to changelog. >>> >>> best, >>> Casper >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Casper Schipper <casper.schipper(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Mario, >>>> >>>> Cannot say with 100% certainty, but it could be that Faust is including a slightly older version of chuck_dl.h when building the chugin ? >>>> Chugins built with Version 1.3.6.0 are no longer compatable with 1.4.0.0, I also had to recompile my own chugins because of this. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Casper >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 8:38 PM, mario buoninfante <mario.buoninfante(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm having issue with a chugin generated with faust2ck. I'm on a 64bit Linux machine (Ubuntu Studio 16.04) and I created a simple sample and hold component in Faust (SampleAndHold.dsp that contains declare name "SampleAndHold";) and then turned it into a chugin using faust2ck. everything seems fine, my SampleAndHold.chug is generated, but unfortunately I cannot use it in ChucK (console: undefined type 'SampleAndHold'...) . I copied it into the chugin folder and also tried launching ChucK with -gSampleAndHold . >>>>> >>>>> does anyone have any experience with faust2ck? am I missing

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Sound glitches at the start of descending tones
by Forrest Cahoon 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

I'm attempting to play with descending tones, but I'm having artifacts at the beginning of the sound. I tried to start with a gain of 0 but this does not prevent the glitch. I've used various sorts of oscillators; when I use SinOsc there is just a glitch at the very beginning of the sound, but with SqrOsc and others there is what sounds sort of like LFO amplitude modulation for maybe even a second into the sound. Here is my code. How do I fix this? SqrOsc r => dac; // also try SinOsc, TriOsc, and SawOsc 300.0 => float STARTING_FREQ; 10000 => int OCTAVE_STEPS; for (0 => int i; i < OCTAVE_STEPS ; i++) { // making an envelope by manipulating the gain if (i < 100) { i * 0.005 => r.gain; } else if (i > OCTAVE_STEPS - 100) { (OCTAVE_STEPS - i) * 0.005 => r.gain; } else { 0.5 => r.gain; } // constantly falling frequency if (i == 0) { STARTING_FREQ => r.freq; } else { STARTING_FREQ * Math.pow(2.0, -1.0 * Math.log2((1.0*i)/(1.0*OCTAVE_STEPS))) => r.freq; } 1::ms => now; }

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Re: [chuck-users] New to ChucK: can this be done easily?
by mario.buoninfante 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

Hi, I've never tried to use CSV files with ChucK, an alternative could be use a common txt file with FileIO like you said. About the interpolation an easy way could be using Step and Envelope to set both freq and amplitude of the oscillators. Cheers, Mario Sent from my Wiko ROBBYOn Jun 10, 2018 22:35, Forrest Cahoon <forrest.cahoon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi ChucKers! > > I have a sonification project that I'm wondering if it makes sense to do in ChucK. > > I have a csv file with frequencies and amplitudes for 4 different sine waves, representing values at (say) half-second intervals. I want to read in a line, and then smoothly change the frequency and amplitude values using linear interpolation over the course of 24000 samples (a half second at 48k samples per second), then read in the next line, and smoothly change to those values over the next half-second, etc. until the data runs out. > > I could code this in C using libsndfile, but if I didn't have to worry about converting frequencies into phase distances between samples I'd consider that a win. > > I noticed Chuck has FileIO methods to read input files (although these are very poorly documented) so thought it should be possible to read in a csv file. > > I could calculate the amount of frequency and amplitude change per sample and adjust these in a 1-sample loop, and that's already simpler than coding in C. But I'm hoping there's some way to tell ChucK "I want this (e.g. frequency) value to change smoothly from its current value to f1 over the course of a half-second". If that were possible, ChucK would be a clear choice for my project. > > Thanks for any response! > > Forrest Cahoon >

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New to ChucK: can this be done easily?
by Forrest Cahoon 10 Jun '18

10 Jun '18

Hi ChucKers! I have a sonification project that I'm wondering if it makes sense to do in ChucK. I have a csv file with frequencies and amplitudes for 4 different sine waves, representing values at (say) half-second intervals. I want to read in a line, and then smoothly change the frequency and amplitude values using linear interpolation over the course of 24000 samples (a half second at 48k samples per second), then read in the next line, and smoothly change to those values over the next half-second, etc. until the data runs out. I could code this in C using libsndfile, but if I didn't have to worry about converting frequencies into phase distances between samples I'd consider that a win. I noticed Chuck has FileIO methods to read input files (although these are very poorly documented) so thought it should be possible to read in a csv file. I could calculate the amount of frequency and amplitude change per sample and adjust these in a 1-sample loop, and that's already simpler than coding in C. But I'm hoping there's some way to tell ChucK "I want this (e.g. frequency) value to change smoothly from its current value to f1 over the course of a half-second". If that were possible, ChucK would be a clear choice for my project. Thanks for any response! Forrest Cahoon

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ChucK FLOSS - MIDI reference
by Mario Buoninfante 02 Jun '18

02 Jun '18

Hi everybody, I added a new chapter to the ChucK FLOSS manual, MIDI Reference https://omnibook.pro/chuck/_full/#midi at the moment there are info about MIDI also under the Event Reference, which I don't wanna touch for now. anyway, there are a couple of classes I've never seen before, MidiMsgIn, MidiMsgOut and MidiFileIn, has anyone ever used them? cheers, Mario

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Re: [chuck-users] Chugins in general
by Perry Cook 28 May '18

28 May '18

While we’re on Chugins, I recently installed the newest ChucK/Mini and found that ChucK can’t seem to find the standard Chugins (including MAUI, which I assume has now been unbundled from the ChucK executable?). MiniAudicle seems fine tho. I was using 1.3.5 fine, but 1.4 seems to be set up quite differently for Chugins and path. The installer should take care of this automagically yes? This is for Mac 10.10.5 by the way. Prc Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2018, at 11:00 AM, chuck-users-request(a)lists.cs.princeton.edu wrote: > > Send chuck-users mailing list submissions to > chuck-users(a)lists.cs.princeton.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chuck-users-request(a)lists.cs.princeton.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chuck-users-owner(a)lists.cs.princeton.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of chuck-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: chugins will not load/compile using 1.4.0.0 on windows10 > (Spencer Salazar) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 11:20:42 -0700 > From: Spencer Salazar <spencer.salazar(a)gmail.com> > To: ChucK Users Mailing List <chuck-users(a)lists.cs.princeton.edu> > Subject: Re: [chuck-users] chugins will not load/compile using 1.4.0.0 > on windows10 > Message-ID: > <CA+ezOE4OBF94+YTpS92YOv17XCbhS9dSK0USa_Uy5dMbx9CKnQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Compilation of Chugins on Windows has not been pretty. Right now the system > is designed so to allow a complete build from command line using some > version of the VS compiler and msbuild, but as I recall this entails an > elaborate and brittle setup of environment variables and $PATH > configuration. Any recommendations/pull requests for getting the system to > work a little more nicely would be welcome. Updating the build tools > version sounds like a good start. > > When I have a moment I will look into this myself (I don't have a permanent > Windows set up), but Im also optimistic about Jack's workaround above. > > Spencer > > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Jack Atherton <lja(a)ccrma.stanford.edu> > wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> Sorry to hear you went down that rabbit hole. I believe the intended >> action is to retarget the solution to whatever is on your machine for >> building the Chugins. >> >> I've just set up my own Windows machine within the last few days, and >> installed miniAudicle this morning. What I am seeing when I start the VM >> with log level = info is that miniAudicle is only looking in C:\Program >> Files\ChucK\chugins\ for the location of chugins, instead of looking in all >> the folders of the miniAudicle chugins preferences pane window. This is an >> old bug that I think we fixed at some point, but maybe the official >> installer didn't get updated yet. The installer actually installs the >> chugins at C:\Program Files (x86)\ChucK\chugins\ if you choose the default >> install location, so the temporary fix is to make a new folder C:\Program >> Files\ChucK\chugins\ and copy all of the chugins over into there. >> >> If you set the ChucK>Log Level>Info in the menu bar before starting the >> VM, you should be able to see a printout of where it is scanning for >> chugins and which ones it loads successfully in the console window. When I >> did this on my new laptop, I was able to get it to load all the provided >> chugins, and run a script using one of them without syntax errors. >> >> Again, sorry for the hassle. Let me know if this works. >> >> Best, >> Jack >> >>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 7:26 PM, Ben Sandvik <bpsandvik(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> That kind of makes sense because when I have 1.3.5.2 installed there is a >>> chugins folder created that has a bunch of .CHUG files dated 10/21/2015. >>> These all work in 1.3.5.2. However, I cant install or use any of the newer >>> chugins in 1.3.5.2 on Win10 and when upgrading to 1.4.0.0 none of them work. >>> >>> I have also tried to compile the chugins from the github repo as you >>> suggested, so far no luck and it has sent me down quite the rabbit hole >>> trying to find the right combination of Visual Studio versions, build >>> tools, SDKs, Windows 2010 compilers, etc. etc. I am now stuck on build >>> errors that I just cant figure out. >>> The main issue with compiling the chugins in chuck 1.4.0.0 on Windows 10 >>> seems to be the use of the v100 build tools in the makefile for each >>> chugin. I think I have installed every v100 related build tool on the >>> internet :) >>> >>> >>> running 'make win32' from mingw64 results in the following errors for the >>> ABSaturator (the first chugin in the makefile) and stops compiling: >>> "Build FAILED. >>> "C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSaturator\ABSaturator.vcxproj" (default target) >>> (1) -> >>> (PrepareForBuild target) -> C:\Program Files >>> (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\v4.0\Microsoft.CppBuild.targets(297,5): >>> warning MSB8003: Could not find WindowsSDKDir variable from the registry. >>> TargetFrameworkVersion or PlatformToolset may be set to an invalid version >>> number. [C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSaturator\ABSaturator.vcxproj] >>> "C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSaturator\ABSaturator.vcxproj" (default target) >>> (1) -> >>> (ClCompile target) -> C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\v4 >>> .0\Platforms\Win32\Microsoft.Cpp.Win32.Targets(153,5): error MSB6006: >>> "CL.exe" exited with code -1073741515. [C:\Users\Ben\chugins\ABSatura >>> tor\ABSaturator.vcxproj]" >>> >>> I noticed on the github that a fix on Jan 17 that changed the toolset of >>> each chugin from v141 to v100, so as an experiment I changed each line of >>> <PlatformToolset>v100</PlatformToolset> back to >>> <PlatformToolset>v141</PlatformToolset> in the ABSaturator makefile. >>> Running make win32 resulted in a pretty verbose log and a statement in >>> mingw64 of a successful build for ABSaturator!! >>> >>> Next, running sudo make install resulted in the following: >>> $ make install >>> CHUCK_STRICT=1 make -C ABSaturator/ install >>> make[1]: Entering directory 'C:/Users/Ben/chugins/ABSaturator' >>> gcc -O3 -Werror -c -o ABSaturator.o ABSaturator.cpp >>> process_begin: CreateProcess(NULL, gcc -O3 -Werror -c -o ABSaturator.o >>> ABSaturator.cpp, ...) failed. >>> make (e=2): The system cannot find the file specified. >>> >>> So I moved the contents of ABSaturator/Release to ABSaturator/ and >>> changed the file name of ABSaturator.obj to ABSaturator.o and ran make >>> install again. This time, no log of any ABSaturator activity. I tried >>> using the chugin again in miniAudicle and got the same 'undefined type' >>> error. >>> >>> So ... are there any Windows 10 users or devs that have succesfully >>> installed and used the chugins for 1.4.0.0? Any guidance would be >>> appreciated. Ihave basically used all my free time for a week on this. I >>> really want to use the ArrayOutOfBounds line number features and to try out >>> the new NHHall reverb :) >>> Thanks >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:19 AM, Jack Atherton <lja(a)ccrma.stanford.edu> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am pretty sure that chugins that worked with 1.3.X have an internal >>>> version number that is incompatible with 1.4.0.0 -- the API for chugins >>>> changed. You could try recompiling the chugins from the chugin repo and >>>> seeing if that works. I am not sure if the Windows installer also installs >>>> chugins like the Mac installer does (at least, I'm pretty sure the Mac >>>> installer does). >>>> >>>> That sounds nasty about the log level crash. I wonder if it is something >>>> that happens when attempting to load incompatible chugins... we should >>>> probably fix it if that's what's going on! >>>> >>>> -Jack >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Ben Sandvik <bpsandvik(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> List, >>>>> I have been trying to update to chuck 1.4.0.0 for a few days, but I >>>>> can't get chugins to compile or load on Windows 10 64-bit using >>>>> miniAudicle. I'm getting the "undefined type '...' in declaration" error >>>>> message for every chugin when adding to the VM, including ones that had >>>>> been working correctly with 1.3.5.2. Other .ck files that don't use >>>>> chugins seem to be working fine. Here is what I have tried >>>>> >>>>> Downloaded the 1.4 executable and went through the standard >>>>> installation >>>>> >>>>> I have copied the files from the chugins GitHub zip file to: >>>>> C:\WINDOWS\system32/ChucK >>>>> C:\ProgramFiles\ChucK\chugins >>>>> C:\ProgramFiles(x86)\ChucK\chugins >>>>> >>>>> and made sure the directory is listed under the chugins preferences in >>>>> miniAudicle. Not sure which is best directory, just trying everything. >>>>> I have also tried just putting the github files for a specific chugin >>>>> in the same folder with an example .ck files. Still the same error message. >>>>> If I uninstall 1.4 and re-install 1.3.5.2 the older chugins are working >>>>> fine, but newer ones like Wavetable and ExpEnv are not. >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas? Am I missing some obvious step during installation? Is >>>>> there a Windows10-specific issue? >>>>> Also, not sure if this is related, but changing the Log Level to >>>>> anything other than System causes miniAudicle to crash when starting the vm. >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> Ben >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. >>>>> www.avast.com >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> >>>>> <#m_3282469593605501594_m_-5689126269115495148_m_-7921755889847518136_m_7236496386533434902_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <#m_3282469593605501594_m_-5689126269115495148_m_-7921755889847518136_m_7236496386533434902_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> chuck-users mailing list >>>>> >>>>> <#m_3282469593605501594_m_-5689126269115495148_m_-7921755889847518136_m_7236496386533434902_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>> chuck-users(a)lists.cs.princeton.edu >>>>> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> chuck-users mailing list >>>> chuck-users(a)lists.cs.princeton.edu >>>> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> chuck-users mailing list >>> chuck-users(a)lists.cs.princeton.edu >>> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> chuck-users mailing list >> chuck-users(a)lists.cs.princeton.edu >> https://lists.cs.princeton.edu/mailman/listinfo/chuck-users >> >> > > > -- > Spencer Salazar, PhD > Special Faculty > Music Technology: Interaction, Intelligence, and Design > California Institute of the Arts > > ssalazar(a)calarts.edu | +1 831.277.4654 > https://spencersalazar.com >

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